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Repeatability versus intermediate precision

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a.ibarraTL2 Solution16 Jun 2025 · edited#3
l.sarkissian, post #1: Repeatability versus intermediate precision — setting out what I have, and where I think it stops being reliable. Trying to establish the boundary conditions on repeatability versus intermediate precision. The general claim is fine; I want to know where it stops holding, because that is where I am operating. Three edge cases below, in… Go to post

The opening post put the caveat in the right place and I want to underline it.

Agreed on repeatability versus intermediate precision, with one qualification that I think matters. The reasoning holds for the case as described. Change the starting assumption and it does not, and the starting assumption is the part nobody states.

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g.valckenaereTL3Regular18 Jun 2025#14

Worth separating two things that post #11 runs together.

On repeatability versus intermediate precision, the part that usually goes wrong is that the question is asked as though it has one answer. It has a range, and the width of the range is the interesting bit.

If you can post the two or three numbers you are working from, several people here will check the arithmetic rather than argue about the conclusion.

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KTurkingtonTL3Regular21 Jun 2025#33

An observation about repeatability versus intermediate precision that I cannot explain and am posting anyway, on the principle that unexplained observations are more useful public than private.

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unit_conversionTL3Regular23 Jun 2025#47

On post #46 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.

Distinguishing three things in the repeatability versus intermediate precision discussion that keep getting used interchangeably: the observation, the proposed mechanism, and the recommendation that gets attached to both.

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d.bakkerTL225 Jun 2025#57

Filing a mild objection to the consensus on repeatability versus intermediate precision. Mild because I might be wrong; an objection because nobody has addressed the case that does not fit.

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d.ferreiraTL227 Jun 2025#78
eire_reader, post #43: Adding a null result on repeatability versus intermediate precision. I looked, carefully, and found nothing, and null results deserve posting precisely because they never are. Go to post

My position on repeatability versus intermediate precision is current rather than settled. I have revised it once already and I expect to again, so treat it accordingly.

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e.dalgleishTL3Regular29 Jun 2025#98
s.cabrera, post #86: Taking post #85 at face value and following it one step further. Precision has two levels worth distinguishing: repeatability within a run and intermediate precision across days, analysts and instruments. The second is where most methods lose the numbers people quote. A qualification I should have led with rather than closed on. Go to post

What would change my mind on repeatability versus intermediate precision is a second dataset collected by someone with no stake in the first. Until then I hold it loosely and I would rather say so than pretend to more.

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r.marsdenTL3Regular1 Jul 2025#109
i.lehtinen, post #48: Picking up post #46: that is the part I would want checked first. The most useful single question about a method: what would it fail to detect? Every method has an answer and few documents state it. Where I would look next, rather than where I would stop. Go to post

Precision and repeatability: within-run and between-run variability of the method. Acceptance criterion is typically a relative standard deviation of ≤2% for area measurements.

I would put a moderate confidence on that and no more.

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two_year_lineTL3Regular3 Jul 2025#135
s.bergstrom, post #34: Where a pharmacopoeial monograph exists, a method that follows it inherits a great deal of assurance. Almost nothing discussed here has one. Go to post

Post #133 put the caveat in the right place and I want to underline it.

Where a pharmacopoeial monograph exists, a method that follows it inherits a great deal of assurance. Almost nothing discussed here has one.

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