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Requesting a page: what makes a good request posts 31–60

This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1.

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il.dumitruTL222 Mar 2025#31

Post #28 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

Link the topics that prompted the request. The discussion is the evidence that the question recurs.

The claim is narrower than it sounds, and deliberately so.

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g.haalandTL3Regular23 Mar 2025#32
to.varga, post #26: Adding the measurement that post #24 says would settle it. Format suggestions: if you think a maintained page could be clearer in its presentation (different section structure, different examples, added graphics) suggest the change. On reflection I would soften that slightly. Go to post

Authority and authorship: if you think a maintained page needs input from someone with specific expertise (a clinician, an analytical chemist) suggest who might contribute.

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i.oseiTL224 Mar 2025#33

Suggesting content for a page: if you know a maintained page is missing something important, post a suggestion with specific content you think should be added.

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OkaforTL3Regular25 Mar 2025#34

That is consistent with mine, for whatever one more account is worth.

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ka.haddadTL226 Mar 2025#35

Narrowing post #32, because the general version has more than one answer.

Scope the request narrowly. A page about one thing gets written and stays current; a page about a field does not.

I would not lead a decision with this, but I would not ignore it either.

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a.salcedoTL3Regular27 Mar 2025#36

Everything in post #35 holds. The case it does not cover is the one I have.

Scope creep: if you think a page is attempting too much and should be split into multiple pages, that is a reasonable suggestion.

A guess, clearly labelled as one.

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e.coelhoTL228 Mar 2025 · edited#37
me.eriksen, post #2: Flag a page that has drifted: if you notice a maintained page has information that is outdated (dates that have passed, regulatory changes, new evidence) post a flag so the maintainers see it. Two people can read the same figure differently here and both be reasonable. Go to post

Flag a page that has drifted: if you notice a maintained page has information that is outdated (dates that have passed, regulatory changes, new evidence) post a flag so the maintainers see it.

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f.abrahamsenTL2Member29 Mar 2025#38

The commonest reason a good request stalls is that nobody converted it into a draft. A rough draft attracts editors; a request does not.

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b.teixeiraTL230 Mar 2025#39

Review cadence should be part of the proposal. A page about a fast-moving area needs a shorter cycle and somebody willing to honour it.

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DOdendaalTL3Regular31 Mar 2025#40

A request is more likely to succeed with a proposed outline attached. "Somebody should write about X" rarely moves; a structure and two sections does.

Two sources, same conclusion, and I could not rule out that one copied the other.

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a.petrovTL21 Apr 2025#41

Coming back to post #39, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

Format suggestions: if you think a maintained page could be clearer in its presentation (different section structure, different examples, added graphics) suggest the change.

If the premise is wrong, everything after it is decoration.

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ambient_reviewTL3Regular1 Apr 2025 · edited#42

Post #39 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.

Name a willing maintainer in the request. Point three of the criteria stops more nominations than the other three combined.

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d.nwosuTL22 Apr 2025#43

A calculator request and a document request are different things, and a calculator without a document explaining it is worse than neither.

Adding it because I spent an afternoon working it out and nobody should have to twice.

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j.habermannTL3Regular3 Apr 2025#44
e.coelho, post #37: Flag a page that has drifted: if you notice a maintained page has information that is outdated (dates that have passed, regulatory changes, new evidence) post a flag so the maintainers see it. Go to post

If a request is declined, the reasoning is written down, and it is worth reading because it usually describes a better version of the same idea.

I would be interested in a counterexample if anyone has one.

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i.rasmussenTL24 Apr 2025#45

Helpful, and short, which on this subject is harder than long.

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n.torrenceTL3Regular5 Apr 2025#46

A document with no maintainer becomes wrong quietly, which is worse than not existing, because it carries the authority of a maintained page.

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mi.almeidaTL26 Apr 2025#47

Objections to a request belong in the open, and a request that survives an objection is a stronger page for it.

The answer changed when I changed how I was measuring, which was informative.

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s.poulsenTL3Regular7 Apr 2025#48
i.rasmussen, post #45: Helpful, and short, which on this subject is harder than long. Go to post

Picking up post #47: that is the part I would want checked first.

Correction requests: if you spot an error in a maintained page, note it here with the specific correction. The maintainer will review and update if justified.

Worth checking against a second source before it gets quoted onward.

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a.amankwahTL28 Apr 2025#49

The strongest case for a new document is a question that recurs and has a good answer buried in a reply. That is the promotion criterion as written.

I keep a log of this specifically because memory is unreliable about it.

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r.marsdenTL3Regular8 Apr 2025#50

Say what would make the page wrong. A page whose failure conditions are stated is much easier to review honestly.

Worth saying I have only my own numbers here, and n is small.

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p.krastevTL29 Apr 2025#51
g.haaland, post #32: Authority and authorship: if you think a maintained page needs input from someone with specific expertise (a clinician, an analytical chemist) suggest who might contribute. Go to post

Requests for a page summarising a supplier are declined, because that is what the vendor documentation set is for and it has its own standards.

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isotonic_sheetTL3Regular10 Apr 2025#52

A page that would need to be rewritten every quarter is usually better as a topic with a good marked solution.

I looked this up rather than remembered it, which is the right order.

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ni.kravchenkoTL211 Apr 2025 · edited#53

The arithmetic in post #50 is right; the assumption feeding it is the part to check.

Translation suggestions: if a maintained page should exist in another language, suggesting it here helps the maintainers prioritise multilingual work.

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r.jhannsdttirTL3Regular12 Apr 2025#54

If a request is declined, the reasoning is written down, and it is worth reading because it usually describes a better version of the same idea.

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r.sobczakTL213 Apr 2025#55
a.petrov, post #41: Coming back to post #39, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer. Format suggestions: if you think a maintained page could be clearer in its presentation (different section structure, different examples, added graphics) suggest the change. If the premise is wrong, everything after it is decoration. Go to post

Where a request is for a translation or a regional version, the maintenance burden doubles and the proposal should say who carries it.

Written quickly, so the reasoning may be tighter than the wording.

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e.almeidaTL2Member13 Apr 2025#56
r.jhannsdttir, post #54: If a request is declined, the reasoning is written down, and it is worth reading because it usually describes a better version of the same idea. Go to post

I had written a reply contradicting post #52 and deleted it. Here is what survived.

Name a willing maintainer in the request. Point three of the criteria stops more nominations than the other three combined.

I have written this out at length because the short version keeps being misread.

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p.novakTL214 Apr 2025#57
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IHollingworthTL2Member15 Apr 2025#58

No notes. Posting so the count is not one.

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j.iyerTL216 Apr 2025#59

Post #56 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.

Review cadence should be part of the proposal. A page about a fast-moving area needs a shorter cycle and somebody willing to honour it.

Anyone who has looked at this more carefully, please correct the record.

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coldchain_liuTL3Regular17 Apr 2025#60
m.lindqvist, post #5: Objections to a request belong in the open, and a request that survives an objection is a stronger page for it. If anyone has run this properly I would rather read that than my own guess. Go to post

Coming back to post #56, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

A request is more likely to succeed with a proposed outline attached. "Somebody should write about X" rarely moves; a structure and two sections does.

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