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Revisiting: Aggregates and why a purity assay may miss them entirely

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n.vukovicTL2 Solution12 Nov 2025#4
n.cardoso, post #2: The honest reading of a purity figure: it is an upper bound on how much of what the method could see was the intended species, under one integration convention, on one sample. That is the shape of it. The detail is where I would expect to be corrected. Go to post

Post #2 describes the usual case. This is about the unusual one.

Deamidation at asparagine or glutamine adds approximately one dalton and frequently produces a close-eluting pair. It is the impurity most likely to be integrated into the main peak by accident.

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r.petrovTL214 Nov 2025#8
m.strand_rph, post #5: Adding a reference point for Aggregates. Mine is a single case, collected without controls, and I am posting the method alongside it so it can be discounted appropriately. Go to post

Genuine question rather than a rhetorical one: has anyone here actually observed Aggregates, as opposed to read about it? The thread is long and I cannot tell.

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k.brandl_deTL3Translator · DE14 Nov 2025#9
r.petrov, post #8: Genuine question rather than a rhetorical one: has anyone here actually observed Aggregates, as opposed to read about it? The thread is long and I cannot tell. Go to post

Post #8 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

Truncation products: fragments from incomplete synthesis or from degradation. They elute quite differently from the intact peptide because they are much smaller and have different hydrophobicity. They are usually well separated.

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s.lindqvistTL217 Nov 2025#18
e.kuipers, post #14: Post #12 is the version of this I will quote in future. One addition. The version of Aggregates that circulates here is a simplification of a simplification. It is not wrong, but it has lost the conditions under which it holds, and those conditions are where the interesting cases live. Go to post

Aggregates: multiples of the monomer mass. May not elute at all under a standard reversed-phase method. A species that does not come off the column does not appear in the area percentage.

I have said this before in a thread nobody could find, so it is worth repeating.

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a.thorneTL2Wiki editor18 Nov 2025#22

I read post #20 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

What I can speak to on Aggregates is narrow, so I will keep it narrow rather than generalising from it. Beyond that boundary I do not know.

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k.ogunleyeTL219 Nov 2025#29
b.vanhecke, post #6: Grateful for the specificity. Vague answers to this question are what sent me looking. Go to post

I have no financial interest in anything named in this thread and I want to say so before I comment on Aggregates, because it is the sort of subject where it matters.

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buffer_marginTL3Regular22 Nov 2025#40

On Aggregates, the part that usually goes wrong is that the question is asked as though it has one answer. It has a range, and the width of the range is the interesting bit.

If you can post the two or three numbers you are working from, several people here will check the arithmetic rather than argue about the conclusion.

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f.weissTL223 Nov 2025 · edited#44
e.kuipers, post #14: Post #12 is the version of this I will quote in future. One addition. The version of Aggregates that circulates here is a simplification of a simplification. It is not wrong, but it has lost the conditions under which it holds, and those conditions are where the interesting cases live. Go to post

Trifluoroacetate is a counter-ion rather than an impurity, and it appears in the mass balance rather than in the chromatogram. Conflating the two accounts for several confused threads here.

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