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A page that has drifted out of date and needs a maintainer posts 61–90

This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1 · go to the accepted answer.

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b.oseiTL27 Feb 2025 · edited#61

Post #60 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.

The most useful requests here identify a specific confusion that keeps recurring rather than a subject that seems important.

That is what I would do. It may not be what is correct.

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a.reyesTL4 Admin10 Feb 2025#62
ni.stanescu, post #56: Adding the measurement that post #55 says would settle it. Authority and authorship: if you think a maintained page needs input from someone with specific expertise (a clinician, an analytical chemist) suggest who might contribute. Go to post

Documents that are mostly a worked example age better than documents that are mostly a summary, because the arithmetic does not change.

Same conclusion as the reply above, reached differently, which is mildly reassuring.

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k.dahlbergTL212 Feb 2025#63

Accessibility feedback: if you have trouble accessing or reading a maintained page (screen reader issues, contrast problems, small text) report it. Accessibility matters.

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owen.bradyTL4 Moderator14 Feb 2025#64

On post #62 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.

Correction requests: if you spot an error in a maintained page, note it here with the specific correction. The maintainer will review and update if justified.

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c.delgadoTL217 Feb 2025#65
n.torrence, post #51: Answering the question post #47 raises rather than the one it answers. Scope the request narrowly. A page about one thing gets written and stays current; a page about a field does not. Go to post

Suggesting content for a page: if you know a maintained page is missing something important, post a suggestion with specific content you think should be added.

The honest answer is that it depends, and here is what it depends on.

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a.lindholmTL219 Feb 2025#66
trough_index, post #1: On the subject in the title: A page that has drifted out of date and needs a maintainer Working notes rather than a conclusion. Nominating something for promotion into the documentation commons. The topic in question keeps being re-asked, has a good marked solution, and contains a worked example that would be more useful on a page with… Go to post

That matches what I have seen, for whatever a single anecdote is worth.

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h.mbekiTL222 Feb 2025#67

Adding the measurement that post #64 says would settle it.

The most useful requests here identify a specific confusion that keeps recurring rather than a subject that seems important.

Anyone who has looked at this more carefully, please correct the record.

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k.radichTL224 Feb 2025#68

Post #67 describes the usual case. This is about the unusual one.

Request a new maintained page: if a question recurs, has a good marked solution, and contains a worked example, it is a candidate for promotion to a maintained documentation page. Post your nomination in this subcategory with a link to the topic.

Written in the hope of being told what I have missed.

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s.grimaldiTL226 Feb 2025#69
dietitian_hollis, post #10: Flag a page that has drifted: if you notice a maintained page has information that is outdated (dates that have passed, regulatory changes, new evidence) post a flag so the maintainers see it. Marking that as an opinion rather than a finding. Go to post

Objections to a request belong in the open, and a request that survives an objection is a stronger page for it.

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sourced_claimsTL31 Mar 2025#70
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ms_hollowayTL4Mass spectrometrist3 Mar 2025#71
v.stanescu, post #39: Scope creep: if you think a page is attempting too much and should be split into multiple pages, that is a reasonable suggestion. Posting it because the silence on this was starting to look like agreement. Go to post

Post #69 describes the usual case. This is about the unusual one.

Documents that are mostly a worked example age better than documents that are mostly a summary, because the arithmetic does not change.

I am reporting what happened, not recommending it.

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m.ibarraTL25 Mar 2025#72

Flag a page that has drifted: if you notice a maintained page has information that is outdated (dates that have passed, regulatory changes, new evidence) post a flag so the maintainers see it.

The claim is narrower than it sounds, and deliberately so.

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s.leclercTL4 Moderator8 Mar 2025#73

Scope creep: if you think a page is attempting too much and should be split into multiple pages, that is a reasonable suggestion.

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m.brobergTL210 Mar 2025#74
c.delgado, post #65: Suggesting content for a page: if you know a maintained page is missing something important, post a suggestion with specific content you think should be added. The honest answer is that it depends, and here is what it depends on. Go to post

Confirming post #73 from a second method, which matters more than confirming it from a second person.

Name a willing maintainer in the request. Point three of the criteria stops more nominations than the other three combined.

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a.reyesTL4 Admin12 Mar 2025#75

Say what would make the page wrong. A page whose failure conditions are stated is much easier to review honestly.

I would want the raw data before agreeing with my own summary of it.

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j.steinerTL215 Mar 2025#76

Requests for a page summarising a supplier are declined, because that is what the vendor documentation set is for and it has its own standards.

The mechanism is plausible, which is not the same as established.

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n.moreauTL217 Mar 2025 · edited#77

No notes. Posting so the count is not one.

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p.mbekiTL219 Mar 2025#78
n.moreau, post #77: No notes. Posting so the count is not one. Go to post

Post #76 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.

A document with no maintainer becomes wrong quietly, which is worse than not existing, because it carries the authority of a maintained page.

For what it is worth, the same held on the two occasions I checked.

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s.chowdhuryTL3Regular22 Mar 2025#79

Scope the request narrowly. A page about one thing gets written and stays current; a page about a field does not.

Two sources, same conclusion, and I could not rule out that one copied the other.

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an.ibarraTL224 Mar 2025#80

A request that says what the page should not cover is unusually helpful, because scope creep is what kills these.

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peak_purityTL3Analytical chemist26 Mar 2025#81
cannula_trace, post #8: A page that would need to be rewritten every quarter is usually better as a topic with a good marked solution. It is the kind of thing that is obvious once and never again. Go to post

Narrowing post #78, because the general version has more than one answer.

The most useful requests here identify a specific confusion that keeps recurring rather than a subject that seems important.

Happy to be the one who is wrong here if it settles the question.

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no.silvaTL228 Mar 2025#82
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owen.bradyTL4 Moderator31 Mar 2025#83

Translation suggestions: if a maintained page should exist in another language, suggesting it here helps the maintainers prioritise multilingual work.

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s.dialloTL22 Apr 2025#84

Correction requests: if you spot an error in a maintained page, note it here with the specific correction. The maintainer will review and update if justified.

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mira.patelTL4 Admin4 Apr 2025#85

The most useful requests here identify a specific confusion that keeps recurring rather than a subject that seems important.

It is the sort of thing that seems obvious in retrospect and was not at the time.

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m.onwukaTL27 Apr 2025#86

I read post #84 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

Say what would make the page wrong. A page whose failure conditions are stated is much easier to review honestly.

That has been true for the cases I have seen and I have not seen many.

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e.verhoevenTL29 Apr 2025#87

Right, and stated more narrowly than I would have dared to state it.

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r.laurentTL211 Apr 2025 · edited#88
k.radich, post #68: Post #67 describes the usual case. This is about the unusual one. Request a new maintained page: if a question recurs, has a good marked solution, and contains a worked example, it is a candidate for promotion to a maintained documentation page. Post your nomination in this subcategory with a link to the topic. Written in the hope of… Go to post

Documents that are mostly a worked example age better than documents that are mostly a summary, because the arithmetic does not change.

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g.tanakaTL313 Apr 2025#89
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e.mbekiTL215 Apr 2025#90

Scope the request narrowly. A page about one thing gets written and stays current; a page about a field does not.

If that reads as pedantic, it is, and it has saved me twice.

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