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z.yildizTL211 Jul 2025 · edited#91

v.krastev, post #42: Written summaries after an appointment are available in many systems and are worth asking for, because recollection of a consultation is unreliable. Two people can read the same figure differently here and both be reasonable. Go to post

Understanding stopping rules: what would prompt stopping the compound? Adverse effect, lack of benefit after a defined time, or other reasons? Knowing in advance is better than surprise discontinuation.

Adding a source would improve this post and I do not have one to hand.

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v.fontaineTL212 Jul 2025#92

If you have been doing something the prescriber does not know about, saying so is more useful than not. Clinicians here consistently say they would rather know.

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va.baptistaTL213 Jul 2025#93

Collapsed as off-topic by two members at trust level 3 or above

Adding the measurement that post #91 says would settle it.

A question phrased as "what would you want to see before considering X" is answerable and is not a request for X.

I checked the source rather than the summary, and they differ.

t.vasquezTL4 Moderator14 Jul 2025#94

Helpful, and short, which on this subject is harder than long.

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j.asanteTL215 Jul 2025#95

e.kjeldsen, post #54: Reading back through, this was answered upthread and I missed it. My fault. Go to post

Bringing a record of symptoms with dates and severities makes an assessment materially easier and is the single most useful preparation.

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compounding_ruthTL4Pharmacist16 Jul 2025#96

Prescription logistics: confirm whether it will be filled locally, requires mail order, or will be prescribed off-label and needs a compounding pharmacy. Different paths have different implications.

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z.okonkwoTL217 Jul 2025#97

Picking up post #95: that is the part I would want checked first.

A question phrased as "what would you want to see before considering X" is answerable and is not a request for X.

This is the sort of thing the wiki should carry and currently does not.

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system_suitabilityTL3Analytical chemist18 Jul 2025#98

If the answer is no, asking for the reason is reasonable and the reason is usually specific. It is also what makes an appeal possible where one exists.

This has been discussed before and I could not find the thread, so, again.

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c.niemelTL3Regular19 Jul 2025#99

h.oyelowo, post #25: Post #21 describes the usual case. This is about the unusual one. A question phrased as "what would you want to see before considering X" is answerable and is not a request for X. Somebody will have a better source than mine, and I hope they post it. Go to post

Agreed on all of that, and I have nothing to add to it.

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s.ferreiraTL220 Jul 2025#100

excursion_check, post #48: Narrowing post #47, because the general version has more than one answer. A question phrased as "what would you want to see before considering X" is answerable and is not a request for X. The variance between people here is larger than the effect being discussed. Go to post

Post #96 put the caveat in the right place and I want to underline it.

Bringing a record of symptoms with dates and severities makes an assessment materially easier and is the single most useful preparation.

I have separated what I observed from what I concluded, which does not always happen.

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ni.stanescuTL221 Jul 2025 · edited#101

Taking post #100 at face value and following it one step further.

If the answer is no, asking for the reason is reasonable and the reason is usually specific. It is also what makes an appeal possible where one exists.

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ambient_reviewTL3Regular22 Jul 2025#102

Lundqvist, post #2: A question phrased as "what would you want to see before considering X" is answerable and is not a request for X. A partial answer, offered because a partial answer beats none. Go to post

A second opinion is a normal part of medicine rather than an accusation, and asking how to obtain one is a legitimate question.

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a.petrovTL223 Jul 2025#103

Prescription logistics: confirm whether it will be filled locally, requires mail order, or will be prescribed off-label and needs a compounding pharmacy. Different paths have different implications.

Adding it in case it saves somebody the afternoon it cost me.

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s.poulsenTL3Regular24 Jul 2025#104

I would not lead a decision with this, but I would not ignore it either.

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mi.almeidaTL225 Jul 2025#105

Clarifying indication: if a compound is approved for diabetes but you have obesity without diabetes, clarify whether your clinician considers this off-label use and what the evidence basis is.

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n.torrenceTL3Regular26 Jul 2025#106

y.rahimi, post #13: Building on post #11 rather than restating it. Written summaries after an appointment are available in many systems and are worth asking for, because recollection of a consultation is unreliable. Go to post

Bringing a record of symptoms with dates and severities makes an assessment materially easier and is the single most useful preparation.

Correct me on the arithmetic if it is wrong; I would rather know.

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k.agyemanTL227 Jul 2025#107

Written summaries after an appointment are available in many systems and are worth asking for, because recollection of a consultation is unreliable.

If the premise is wrong, everything after it is decoration.

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VThorvaldsenTL3Regular28 Jul 2025#108

Coming back to post #106, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

The most useful question anyone here has reported asking: what would make you change your mind about this?

The claim is narrower than it sounds, and deliberately so.

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s.achebeTL229 Jul 2025#109

v.okonkwo, post #64: Asking what would change the plan is more productive than asking whether the plan is right. It gets you the decision criteria rather than a verdict. That is the honest state of it as of this week. Go to post

Nothing to add, except that this is the answer I would give if asked.

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KnowltonTL3Regular30 Jul 2025#110

Where I part company with post #106, and it is a narrow parting.

A question phrased as "what would you want to see before considering X" is answerable and is not a request for X.

On reflection I would soften that slightly.

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s.bruunTL231 Jul 2025#111

Questions about dose: asking "how will we determine whether this dose is working for me" gets at the monitoring plan. Asking "can we start lower" or "can we escalate slower" opens that conversation.

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b.demirTL21 Aug 2025#112

Post #110 is the version of this I will quote in future. One addition.

Asking what monitoring is planned and why makes the monitoring make sense, and makes it likelier to happen.

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h.mensahTL22 Aug 2025#113

Post #110 describes the usual case. This is about the unusual one.

Prescription logistics: confirm whether it will be filled locally, requires mail order, or will be prescribed off-label and needs a compounding pharmacy. Different paths have different implications.

Second-hand, so weight it accordingly.

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l.piresTL23 Aug 2025#114

ni.stanescu, post #101: Taking post #100 at face value and following it one step further. If the answer is no, asking for the reason is reasonable and the reason is usually specific. It is also what makes an appeal possible where one exists. Go to post

Asking what would change the plan is more productive than asking whether the plan is right. It gets you the decision criteria rather than a verdict.

Scoping that to what I have actually seen rather than what I have read.

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owen.bradyTL4 Moderator4 Aug 2025 · edited#115

Bringing a record of symptoms with dates and severities makes an assessment materially easier and is the single most useful preparation.

Happy to expand any of that if it is the useful part.

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m.onwukaTL25 Aug 2025#116

A question phrased as "what would you want to see before considering X" is answerable and is not a request for X.

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mira.patelTL4 Admin6 Aug 2025#117

On post #113 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.

Where a decision rests on a guideline, asking which guideline is entirely reasonable and usually answered directly.

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g.rasmussenTL27 Aug 2025#118

v.fontaine, post #92: If you have been doing something the prescriber does not know about, saying so is more useful than not. Clinicians here consistently say they would rather know. Go to post

This is the sort of exchange that makes the archive worth searching.

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np_gilmoreTL3Nurse practitioner8 Aug 2025#119

s.poulsen, post #104: Understanding stopping rules: what would prompt stopping the compound? Adverse effect, lack of benefit after a defined time, or other reasons? Knowing in advance is better than surprise discontinuation. I would not lead a decision with this, but I would not ignore it either. Go to post

Post #117 and I disagree about the size of the effect, not about the direction.

Prescription logistics: confirm whether it will be filled locally, requires mail order, or will be prescribed off-label and needs a compounding pharmacy. Different paths have different implications.

Someone will know this better than I do and I hope they say so.

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j.erdoganTL29 Aug 2025#120

Bringing a record of symptoms with dates and severities makes an assessment materially easier and is the single most useful preparation.

That is all the detail I have. Someone else will have more.

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