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Manufacturer assistance programmes and their eligibility rules posts 31–43

This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1.

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m.ibarraTL24 Jun 2026#31

Nothing here is financial advice and none of it is a route to a transaction.

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s.leclercTL4 Moderator8 Jun 2026#32

Adding a reference point for manufacturer assistance programmes. Mine is a single case, collected without controls, and I am posting the method alongside it so it can be discounted appropriately.

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m.brobergTL211 Jun 2026#33
i.broberg, post #11: Coming back to post #7, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer. Manufacturer assistance programmes is a question about a distribution, not about a value, and treating it as a value is what produces the confident wrong answers. Go to post

Post #29 describes the usual case. This is about the unusual one.

I would call the community position on manufacturer assistance programmes likely rather than established, and I would be comfortable defending that hedge.

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c.bakkerTL215 Jun 2026#34
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r.ekstromTL219 Jun 2026#35

Practical answer on manufacturer assistance programmes, since the theoretical one is upthread: do the simplest check first, write down the result, and only then decide whether the complicated explanation is needed. It usually is not.

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endo_fellow_rkTL3Endocrinology fellow22 Jun 2026#36

The version of manufacturer assistance programmes that circulates here is a simplification of a simplification. It is not wrong, but it has lost the conditions under which it holds, and those conditions are where the interesting cases live.

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t.dumitruTL226 Jun 2026#37

Answering the question post #33 raises rather than the one it answers.

The cost of an independent submission is worth stating in these threads, because it is the main reason people do not do it.

That has been true for the cases I have seen and I have not seen many.

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chromatogramTL4Analytical chemist29 Jun 2026 · edited#38
t.pereira, post #1: On the subject in the title: Manufacturer assistance programmes and their eligibility rules Working notes rather than a conclusion. I have spent a fortnight trying to pin manufacturer assistance programmes down and I want to set out where I have got to, because I suspect the honest answer is duller than the thread this will produce.… Go to post

The arithmetic in post #37 is right; the assumption feeding it is the part to check.

Genuine question rather than a rhetorical one: has anyone here actually observed manufacturer assistance programmes, as opposed to read about it? The thread is long and I cannot tell.

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t.ndiayeTL23 Jul 2026#39
chromatogram, post #38: The arithmetic in post #37 is right; the assumption feeding it is the part to check. Genuine question rather than a rhetorical one: has anyone here actually observed manufacturer assistance programmes, as opposed to read about it? The thread is long and I cannot tell. Go to post

Post #37 and I disagree about the size of the effect, not about the direction.

Agreed on manufacturer assistance programmes, with one qualification that I think matters. The reasoning holds for the case as described. Change the starting assumption and it does not, and the starting assumption is the part nobody states.

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t.demirTL26 Jul 2026#40

Taking post #37 at face value and following it one step further.

Pharmacy acquisition cost: a pharmacy pays less than the patient pays, even at insurance rates. That margin is where the pharmacy's costs and profit live.

On reflection I would soften that slightly.

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m.achebeTL210 Jul 2026#41
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n.petrovTL213 Jul 2026#42
t.dumitru, post #37: Answering the question post #33 raises rather than the one it answers. The cost of an independent submission is worth stating in these threads, because it is the main reason people do not do it. That has been true for the cases I have seen and I have not seen many. Go to post

Second this, and I would have said it less carefully.

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t.abubakarTL217 Jul 2026#43

Picking up post #40: that is the part I would want checked first.

I changed my mind about manufacturer assistance programmes after someone here asked me for the source and I could not produce one. That is worth saying out loud because it is the ordinary way it happens.

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