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Second pass at: A history of disordered eating: proceeding carefully

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c.tullochTL226 Jan 2025#1

On the subject in the title: Second pass at: A history of disordered eating: proceeding carefully Working notes rather than a conclusion.

Two things I would like separated before anyone answers on history of disordered eating, because they get bundled and then argued about as one thing.

The first is descriptive: what has actually been observed, by whom, and how. The second is causal: why. I am asking about the first only.

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n.boatengTL21 Feb 2025 · edited#2

On the opening post — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.

The social side of this — how other people respond to visible change — comes up constantly and has nothing to do with pharmacology.

The general case is well covered; this is the awkward specific one.

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dexa_twice_yearlyTL3Regular4 Feb 2025#3
n.boateng, post #2: On the opening post — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification. The social side of this — how other people respond to visible change — comes up constantly and has nothing to do with pharmacology. The general case is well covered; this is the awkward specific one. Go to post

Reading rather than contributing, but this is the most useful thread I have found on it.

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r.szaboTL28 Feb 2025#4

The most useful thing anyone has posted about history of disordered eating in this category was a table of what had been measured and by whom. That is what I would want again.

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methods_marginTL3Regular11 Feb 2025#5

What I would tell a new member reading about history of disordered eating for the first time: the confident posts are not the reliable ones, and the reliable ones are longer.

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m.guerreroTL213 Feb 2025#6
dexa_twice_yearly, post #3: Reading rather than contributing, but this is the most useful thread I have found on it. Go to post

If you are in crisis, contact a local emergency or crisis service rather than posting. A volunteer forum cannot help and waiting costs time.

Not a conclusion. A place to stand while looking for one.

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crossover_reviewTL3Regular16 Feb 2025#7

Confirming post #6 from a second method, which matters more than confirming it from a second person.

Adding a null result on history of disordered eating. I looked, carefully, and found nothing, and null results deserve posting precisely because they never are.

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k.batistaTL219 Feb 2025#8
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vial_slopeTL3Regular21 Feb 2025#9

Taking post #6 at face value and following it one step further.

Where a member is finding this hard, the useful reply is usually a question rather than an answer, and this subcategory does that well.

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m.amankwahTL224 Feb 2025#10

The useful distinction on history of disordered eating is between what was measured and what was inferred from it. Both end up in the same sentence and only one of them has error bars.

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b.okonkwoTL226 Feb 2025#11

Post #7 describes the usual case. This is about the unusual one.

Eating-disorder history is raised here regularly and is the case where guidance most consistently recommends specialist involvement.

Somebody will have a better source than mine, and I hope they post it.

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f.fonsecaTL21 Mar 2025 · edited#12
methods_margin, post #5: What I would tell a new member reading about history of disordered eating for the first time: the confident posts are not the reliable ones, and the reliable ones are longer. Go to post

Social and relationship impacts: weight change affects how others perceive and interact with a person. Those impacts are real and can be psychologically significant.

It is a small point and it changes the answer, which is an awkward combination.

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hana.satoTL4 Moderator3 Mar 2025#13
c.tulloch, post #1: On the subject in the title: Second pass at: A history of disordered eating: proceeding carefully Working notes rather than a conclusion. Two things I would like separated before anyone answers on history of disordered eating, because they get bundled and then argued about as one thing. The first is descriptive: what has actually been… Go to post

Right — I had this wrong and I am glad to have read it before it mattered.

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a.aguirreTL25 Mar 2025#14

History of disordered eating is well covered in the tag pages, and the older discussions are better than the recent ones because they were argued out properly. Worth twenty minutes before adding to this one.

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p.iyer_pharmdTL3Pharmacist8 Mar 2025#15

Reading back through the history of disordered eating threads from last year, the same three questions come up every time and only one of them has ever been answered properly. That seems like a documentation gap rather than a knowledge gap.

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n.okwuosaTL210 Mar 2025#16

Nothing here is medical advice and several members in this subcategory say plainly that they are describing their own experience only.

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system_suitabilityTL3Analytical chemist12 Mar 2025#17
dexa_twice_yearly, post #3: Reading rather than contributing, but this is the most useful thread I have found on it. Go to post

My experience of history of disordered eating contradicts the reply above. I am posting it as a data point rather than as a refutation, because one person's experience is exactly that.

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h.iyerTL214 Mar 2025#18

Building on post #15 rather than restating it.

Nobody has said the unglamorous part of history of disordered eating yet, so: most of the variation is explained by things that are boring to write about and easy to check.

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n.nakamuraTL216 Mar 2025 · edited#19

Motivation and expectation: starting with clear motivation and realistic expectations about what will happen and when helps with psychological adjustment.

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JFitzgibbonTL2Member18 Mar 2025#20

That is clearer than the version I had in my head. Thank you.

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i.coelhoTL220 Mar 2025#21

The arithmetic in post #19 is right; the assumption feeding it is the part to check.

Mood and anxiety: mood changes and anxiety are reported by some people. Baseline mental health status matters for risk. Someone with a history of depression should plan closer monitoring.

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c.dahlbergTL223 Mar 2025 · edited#22
methods_margin, post #5: What I would tell a new member reading about history of disordered eating for the first time: the confident posts are not the reliable ones, and the reliable ones are longer. Go to post

Answering the question post #18 raises rather than the one it answers.

Whatever the answer on history of disordered eating turns out to be, the method for getting there is the same: state the assumption, do the arithmetic in public, invite the correction.

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j.baptistaTL225 Mar 2025#23

I came in to disagree and I am leaving without a disagreement.

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m.rasmussenTL227 Mar 2025#24

Reading this history of disordered eating thread as someone who came in with a fixed view: the third and seventh replies moved me and the confident ones did not.

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z.onwukaTL229 Mar 2025#25

Support and community: some people process weight change through community (online or in-person). Others prefer privacy. Knowing what you need and seeking it proactively helps.

The part I am sure of is shorter than the part I have written.

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f.kimaniTL231 Mar 2025 · edited#26
dexa_twice_yearly, post #3: Reading rather than contributing, but this is the most useful thread I have found on it. Go to post

Post #22 describes the usual case. This is about the unusual one.

History of disordered eating is a good example of a question where the honest answer is boring and the interesting answers are unsupported. I would go with boring.

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t.vasquezTL4 Moderator2 Apr 2025#27

Maintenance brings a different set of psychological questions from loss, and the discussion here is much thinner on that phase.

The literature is thinner on this than the confidence in the thread implies.

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j.petrovTL23 Apr 2025#28

One caution on history of disordered eating: everything above assumes the underlying documentation is what it claims to be. That assumption is doing real work and is rarely stated.

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compounding_ruthTL4Pharmacist5 Apr 2025#29

Expectations set by other people's reported trajectories are a documented source of distress, and the trajectories posted are not representative.

I have written this out at length because the short version keeps being misread.

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i.norgaardTL27 Apr 2025#30

Posting my history of disordered eating numbers with the method attached so they can be discounted properly. Uncontrolled, unblinded, and collected by someone who wanted a particular answer.

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