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Bariatric surgery history: altered anatomy, altered expectations

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Picking up post #8: that is the part I would want checked first. Disordered eating history: a history of anorexia nervosa, bulimia, or other eating disorders changes the risk-benefit calculation because appetite suppression might trigger relapse. This population requires specialist input.

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chromatogramTL4Analytical chemist5 May 2026#1

Posting this under the heading it deserves: Bariatric surgery history: altered anatomy, altered expectations Everything below is what sits behind that.

Asking about bariatric surgery history directly, because I have read four threads on it and each answered a slightly different question.

The version I want answered is the narrow one: given the method stated below, is the result within what anyone else has seen? I am not asking what it means yet.

Method, numbers and the two assumptions I am aware of making are below. If the assumptions are wrong that is more useful to me than agreement.

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KnowltonTL3Regular7 May 2026#2

One caution on bariatric surgery history: everything above assumes the underlying documentation is what it claims to be. That assumption is doing real work and is rarely stated.

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j.hartmannTL28 May 2026#3

Gastroparesis: pre-existing severe delayed gastric emptying can worsen with compounds that slow it further. Discussion with a clinician is prudent if this history exists.

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d.petrescuTL29 May 2026#4

I read post #2 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

Whatever the answer on bariatric surgery history turns out to be, the method for getting there is the same: state the assumption, do the arithmetic in public, invite the correction.

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i.coelhoTL210 May 2026#5

Building on post #4 rather than restating it.

Genetic and ancestry-related differences in response are asked about regularly and the published evidence is thin enough that the honest answer is short.

That is one dataset and I would not build a rule on it.

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p.amankwahTL211 May 2026#6
Knowlton, post #2: One caution on bariatric surgery history: everything above assumes the underlying documentation is what it claims to be. That assumption is doing real work and is rarely stated. Go to post

This settles it for me, at least until somebody posts a reason it should not.

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n.rahimiTL212 May 2026#7

I have been on both sides of the bariatric surgery history argument in this category within eighteen months, which should tell you how strong the evidence for either side is.

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v.nascimentoTL213 May 2026#8

Bariatric surgery history is a good example of a question where the honest answer is boring and the interesting answers are unsupported. I would go with boring.

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ni.stanescuTL2 Solution14 May 2026#9

Picking up post #8: that is the part I would want checked first.

Disordered eating history: a history of anorexia nervosa, bulimia, or other eating disorders changes the risk-benefit calculation because appetite suppression might trigger relapse. This population requires specialist input.

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ambient_reviewTL3Regular15 May 2026#10

On post #7 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.

Dedicated trials in under-studied populations are the only real remedy and several are ongoing, which is worth saying rather than speculating.

Where I would look next, rather than where I would stop.

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cannula_notesTL2Member16 May 2026#11

Post #9 put the caveat in the right place and I want to underline it.

Medullary thyroid carcinoma history: an absolute contraindication because of the preclinical findings in rodent toxicology. The history (personal or family, especially multiple endocrine neoplasia type 2) is an important screening question.

That has held every time I have looked, which is not the same as always.

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e.tammTL217 May 2026#12

Building on post #9 rather than restating it.

Practical note on bariatric surgery history: write down what you expect before you look. The number of times I have found what I went looking for is higher than chance would allow.

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IbrahimoviTL2Member17 May 2026#13
cannula_notes, post #11: Post #9 put the caveat in the right place and I want to underline it. Medullary thyroid carcinoma history: an absolute contraindication because of the preclinical findings in rodent toxicology. The history (personal or family, especially multiple endocrine neoplasia type 2) is an important screening question. That has held every time I… Go to post

I keep a log for bariatric surgery history specifically because my memory of it turned out to be systematically wrong in one direction. Six weeks of notes cost nothing and settled it.

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z.nakamuraTL218 May 2026#14

The most useful contribution here is usually a citation to whichever published document comes closest, with a plain statement of how far it is from the question.

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j.delacroixTL3Regular19 May 2026#15

Before the thread moves on from bariatric surgery history — what is the sample size behind the claim? I am not being difficult; I have seen the same figure quoted from an n of four and from an n of four hundred.

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t.lindqvistTL220 May 2026#16

Post #13 is the version of this I will quote in future. One addition.

Pancreatitis history: the compounds can rarely trigger pancreatitis. A history of pancreatitis makes monitoring for recurrence more important during titration.

That is what I would do. It may not be what is correct.

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MSaarinenTL3Regular20 May 2026 · edited#17
Ibrahimovi, post #13: I keep a log for bariatric surgery history specifically because my memory of it turned out to be systematically wrong in one direction. Six weeks of notes cost nothing and settled it. Go to post

The confident answers on bariatric surgery history and the well-sourced answers are not the same answers, which is the most useful thing I have learned reading this category.

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b.brandtTL221 May 2026#18

I will take the caveat as seriously as the claim, which is the point of putting it there.

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lyophil_marginTL3Regular22 May 2026#19

I changed my mind about bariatric surgery history after someone here asked me for the source and I could not produce one. That is worth saying out loud because it is the ordinary way it happens.

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e.kuipersTL222 May 2026#20
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l.salinasTL223 May 2026#21

Bariatric surgery history sits at the boundary between what this community can usefully discuss and what it cannot, and I think it falls on the discussable side, narrowly.

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s.leclercTL4 Moderator24 May 2026 · edited#22

An update on my earlier bariatric surgery history post: the pattern held for another six weeks and then stopped, which I did not predict and cannot explain.

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j.steinerTL225 May 2026#23

Disordered eating history: a history of anorexia nervosa, bulimia, or other eating disorders changes the risk-benefit calculation because appetite suppression might trigger relapse. This population requires specialist input.

This has been discussed before and I could not find the thread, so, again.

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a.reyesTL425 May 2026#24
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h.mbekiTL226 May 2026#25

Taking post #22 at face value and following it one step further.

What I would tell a new member reading about bariatric surgery history for the first time: the confident posts are not the reliable ones, and the reliable ones are longer.

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k.radichTL227 May 2026 · edited#26

Bariatric surgery history would be much easier to settle if anyone reported the denominator. Almost nobody reports the denominator.

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m.coelhoTL227 May 2026#27
z.nakamura, post #14: The most useful contribution here is usually a citation to whichever published document comes closest, with a plain statement of how far it is from the question. Go to post

Marking my place. If it changes for me I will come back and say so.

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b.solbergTL228 May 2026#28
e.kuipers, post #20: Body weight at the extremes of the studied range affects exposure and the trials rarely reported enough to say by how much. Go to post

Extrapolating a point estimate to somebody well outside the enrolled range should be described as an extrapolation every time it is done.

I have left out the parts I could not verify.

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KTurkingtonTL3Regular29 May 2026#29

Where the bariatric surgery history reasoning breaks down for me is the step from the group result to the individual case. That step is almost never argued for.

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s.bergstromTL229 May 2026#30

Post #28 describes the usual case. This is about the unusual one.

Medullary thyroid carcinoma history: an absolute contraindication because of the preclinical findings in rodent toxicology. The history (personal or family, especially multiple endocrine neoplasia type 2) is an important screening question.

Posting it because the silence on this was starting to look like agreement.

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