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Comparing my trajectory with the trial curves, carefully — a second dataset

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o.pasqualeTL1Member14 Jan 2026#1

Comparing my trajectory with the trial curves, carefully — a second dataset — setting out what I have, and where I think it stops being reliable.

Maintenance rather than loss, which is the part of this that almost nobody writes about.

I have been at roughly the same weight for 15 months. The interesting questions are all different from the ones I had at the start, and the documentation here is much thinner on this phase.

I would like to compare notes with people who are further along, and I would like to know what the published evidence says about this phase specifically rather than by extrapolation.

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y.mensahTL3Wiki editor20 Jan 2026#2

Maintenance series are the ones this subcategory needs most and receives least. The interesting questions all change once loss stops.

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h.espinozaTL225 Jan 2026#3

Non-scale victories: muscle gain or maintenance, clothing fit, energy level, and capability (like climbing stairs without breathlessness) are measurements that scale-based weight misses.

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slow_titratorTL2Regular29 Jan 2026#4

The arithmetic in post #3 is right; the assumption feeding it is the part to check.

The best progress reports here read as records rather than as arguments, and that difference is visible within a sentence.

A weak preference rather than a position.

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b.wikstromTL21 Feb 2026#5

Where I part company with post #3, and it is a narrow parting.

Self-reported intake is optimistic in a consistent direction, and saying so in your own report is more credible than not.

Someone should write this up properly, and it should probably not be me.

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bench_entryTL3Regular5 Feb 2026#6
o.pasquale, post #1: Comparing my trajectory with the trial curves, carefully — a second dataset — setting out what I have, and where I think it stops being reliable. Maintenance rather than loss, which is the part of this that almost nobody writes about. I have been at roughly the same weight for 15 months. The interesting questions are all different from… Go to post

If a pattern survives a rolling-mean treatment it is worth explaining. Most do not, and that is the useful finding.

I am reporting what happened, not recommending it.

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i.wojcikTL28 Feb 2026#7
b.wikstrom, post #5: Where I part company with post #3, and it is a narrow parting. Self-reported intake is optimistic in a consistent direction, and saying so in your own report is more credible than not. Someone should write this up properly, and it should probably not be me. Go to post

Useful. I have added it to my own notes with the date on it.

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b.jankowiakTL3Regular12 Feb 2026#8

Nothing here is medical advice and a progress report is a description of what happened to one person under uncontrolled conditions.

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ro.friskTL215 Feb 2026#9
o.pasquale, post #1: Comparing my trajectory with the trial curves, carefully — a second dataset — setting out what I have, and where I think it stops being reliable. Maintenance rather than loss, which is the part of this that almost nobody writes about. I have been at roughly the same weight for 15 months. The interesting questions are all different from… Go to post

Seasonal patterns: some people report weight loss is slower in winter than summer. Body composition and activity changes might contribute. Noting the season is useful context.

Worth saying I have only my own numbers here, and n is small.

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dr_seongTL3Physician18 Feb 2026#10

This follows post #8 rather than contradicting it.

Menstrual cycle: for people who menstruate, weight can shift by several pounds across the cycle due to fluid retention and other factors. Noting cycle phase when weighing reduces apparent noise.

I would want the raw data before agreeing with my own summary of it.

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a.adebayoTL221 Feb 2026#11

Post #8 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

Rate of change matters more than the absolute number for most of the questions people ask about their own series.

The disagreement above is smaller than it looks once the terms are fixed.

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a.novakTL224 Feb 2026#12

I read post #10 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

Maintenance series are the ones this subcategory needs most and receives least. The interesting questions all change once loss stops.

That distinction has done more work for me than anything else in this category.

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p.marchettiTL227 Feb 2026 · edited#13

If a pattern survives a rolling-mean treatment it is worth explaining. Most do not, and that is the useful finding.

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b.fonsecaTL22 Mar 2026#14
y.mensah, post #2: Maintenance series are the ones this subcategory needs most and receives least. The interesting questions all change once loss stops. Go to post

Self-reported intake is optimistic in a consistent direction, and saying so in your own report is more credible than not.

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c.silvaTL24 Mar 2026#15
i.wojcik, post #7: Useful. I have added it to my own notes with the date on it. Go to post

Narrowing post #12, because the general version has more than one answer.

Seasonal patterns: some people report weight loss is slower in winter than summer. Body composition and activity changes might contribute. Noting the season is useful context.

If that is already documented somewhere, ignore me and link it.

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d.bakkerTL27 Mar 2026#16

Menstrual cycle: for people who menstruate, weight can shift by several pounds across the cycle due to fluid retention and other factors. Noting cycle phase when weighing reduces apparent noise.

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z.iyerTL210 Mar 2026#17

The best progress reports here read as records rather than as arguments, and that difference is visible within a sentence.

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r.girardTL212 Mar 2026#18
slow_titrator, post #4: The arithmetic in post #3 is right; the assumption feeding it is the part to check. The best progress reports here read as records rather than as arguments, and that difference is visible within a sentence. A weak preference rather than a position. Go to post

Non-scale victories: muscle gain or maintenance, clothing fit, energy level, and capability (like climbing stairs without breathlessness) are measurements that scale-based weight misses.

Flagging that the sources on this are thinner than the confidence in the thread suggests.

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j.silvaTL215 Mar 2026#19
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m.stephanopoulosTL3Regular18 Mar 2026#20

I had written a reply contradicting post #18 and deleted it. Here is what survived.

Nothing here is medical advice and a progress report is a description of what happened to one person under uncontrolled conditions.

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m.duarteTL220 Mar 2026#21

A single scale used throughout beats a more accurate scale introduced halfway through. Consistency beats accuracy for a trend.

I would want a second opinion before relying on that.

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n.norgaardTL223 Mar 2026#22

Seasonal patterns: some people report weight loss is slower in winter than summer. Body composition and activity changes might contribute. Noting the season is useful context.

Someone will know this better than I do and I hope they say so.

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f.fenwickTL3Regular25 Mar 2026#23
n.norgaard, post #22: Seasonal patterns: some people report weight loss is slower in winter than summer. Body composition and activity changes might contribute. Noting the season is useful context. Someone will know this better than I do and I hope they say so. Go to post

Where I part company with post #20, and it is a narrow parting.

Non-scale victories: muscle gain or maintenance, clothing fit, energy level, and capability (like climbing stairs without breathlessness) are measurements that scale-based weight misses.

Worth checking against a second source before it gets quoted onward.

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ar.petrovTL228 Mar 2026#24

Post #23 is the version of this I will quote in future. One addition.

The best progress reports here read as records rather than as arguments, and that difference is visible within a sentence.

That is my reading. Someone else read the same page differently and was reasonable.

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a.nwosuTL230 Mar 2026#25

Menstrual cycle: for people who menstruate, weight can shift by several pounds across the cycle due to fluid retention and other factors. Noting cycle phase when weighing reduces apparent noise.

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r.danquahTL22 Apr 2026 · edited#26

Maintenance series are the ones this subcategory needs most and receives least. The interesting questions all change once loss stops.

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r.villalobosTL24 Apr 2026#27
h.espinoza, post #3: Non-scale victories: muscle gain or maintenance, clothing fit, energy level, and capability (like climbing stairs without breathlessness) are measurements that scale-based weight misses. Go to post

I had written a reply contradicting post #23 and deleted it. Here is what survived.

Rate of change matters more than the absolute number for most of the questions people ask about their own series.

That is all the detail I have. Someone else will have more.

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o.vogelTL26 Apr 2026#28
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diluent_watchTL2Member9 Apr 2026#29

Comparing your trajectory to a trial mean is comparing an individual to an average of a selected population, and the spread around that mean is wide.

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z.vogelTL211 Apr 2026#30

Picking up post #27: that is the part I would want checked first.

If a pattern survives a rolling-mean treatment it is worth explaining. Most do not, and that is the useful finding.

It reads as pedantry until the day it does not.

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