Follow-up: Search filters: what is missing posts 121–142
This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1.
Logged, and thank you for the precise description. That is a wording problem rather than a logic problem — an empty state that says "no topics match both filters" is a five-minute change and a real improvement.
Second-hand, so weight it accordingly.
One caution on Search filters: everything above assumes the underlying documentation is what it claims to be. That assumption is doing real work and is rarely stated.
Search filters: I have looked for the primary source twice and failed twice. Either it does not exist or it is somewhere I do not know to look, and I would like to know which.
Confirming post #125 from a second method, which matters more than confirming it from a second person.
Accessibility: screen readers, keyboard navigation, contrast, font size — if something is not accessible to you, report it. Accessibility matters.
That is my reading. Someone else read the same page differently and was reasonable.
Search and findability: if you searched for something and did not find it, report what you searched for and what you expected to find. That helps improve indexing and tagging.
What I want from this Search filters thread is the list of things that would need to be true for the claim to hold. If we can write that list, we can check it.
Coming back to post #125, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.
That would also be the fastest way for a new member to understand what R6 actually catches, which is narrower than people assume from the text.
The claim is narrower than it sounds, and deliberately so.
The number people quote for Search filters is a central estimate presented without its interval, and the interval is wide enough that the estimate is nearly uninformative on its own.
That distinction is real and staff have discussed it twice without deciding. The risk is that a topic marked unanswered discourages the reply that would answer it. If anyone has seen it work elsewhere, say so — that is the missing evidence.
I would be interested in a counterexample if anyone has one.
Everything in post #130 holds. The case it does not cover is the one I have.
Not a bug, but worth saying: the moderation log is paginated at twenty-five entries and there is no way to filter it by rule. Being able to read every R6 action in sequence would be genuinely instructive.
Two things can be true about Search filters at once: the mechanism is plausible and the evidence for the size of the effect is thin. Most of the argument here is people defending the first against attacks on the second.
The arithmetic in post #136 is right; the assumption feeding it is the part to check.
Performance: if pages are slow to load, timeouts occur, or the site is unresponsive, that is worth reporting with details (when, which pages, how slow).
Correct me on the arithmetic if it is wrong; I would rather know.
Adding the boring version of Search filters, because the interesting version keeps getting posted and the boring one is usually right.
Check the ordinary explanations, in order, and stop when one of them accounts for what you are seeing. Most of the time the second one does.
Thank you for the correction. I would rather find out here than later.
Where I part company with post #138, and it is a narrow parting.
The confident answers on Search filters and the well-sourced answers are not the same answers, which is the most useful thing I have learned reading this category.
This follows post #140 rather than contradicting it.
Second-hand on Search filters, so weight it accordingly — someone whose method I trust told me this and I have not verified it myself.
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