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Follow-up: Search filters: what is missing posts 121–142

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f.sjobergTL25 Jun 2026 · edited#121

Adding a small correction to the Search filters summary above rather than a disagreement with it. The substance holds; one of the figures is out by a factor that matters.

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a.reyesTL4 Admin7 Jun 2026#122
a.vukovic, post #79: The reason Search filters is hard to answer is that the obvious measurement and the relevant quantity are not the same thing, and substituting one for the other is silent. Go to post
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Logged, and thank you for the precise description. That is a wording problem rather than a logic problem — an empty state that says "no topics match both filters" is a five-minute change and a real improvement.

Second-hand, so weight it accordingly.

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m.perrinTL28 Jun 2026#123

Answering the question post #121 raises rather than the one it answers.

Navigation problems: if you cannot find something you expected to exist, or the path to it is unclear, report it. Site architecture affects usability.

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dr_okonkwoTL4 Moderator9 Jun 2026#124

One caution on Search filters: everything above assumes the underlying documentation is what it claims to be. That assumption is doing real work and is rarely stated.

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c.correiaTL210 Jun 2026#125
stopper_trace, post #95: Not a bug, but worth saying: the moderation log is paginated at twenty-five entries and there is no way to filter it by rule. Being able to read every R6 action in sequence would be genuinely instructive. The honest answer is that it depends, and here is what it depends on. Go to post

Search filters: I have looked for the primary source twice and failed twice. Either it does not exist or it is somewhere I do not know to look, and I would like to know which.

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r.restrepoTL211 Jun 2026#126
hana.sato, post #68: Guideline clarity: if the guidelines are unclear or seem to be applied inconsistently, post the specific situation so staff can clarify or reconsider. Somebody will have a better source than mine, and I hope they post it. Go to post

Confirming post #125 from a second method, which matters more than confirming it from a second person.

Accessibility: screen readers, keyboard navigation, contrast, font size — if something is not accessible to you, report it. Accessibility matters.

That is my reading. Someone else read the same page differently and was reasonable.

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m.lehtinenTL212 Jun 2026#127

Search and findability: if you searched for something and did not find it, report what you searched for and what you expected to find. That helps improve indexing and tagging.

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me.eriksenTL213 Jun 2026#128

What I want from this Search filters thread is the list of things that would need to be true for the claim to hold. If we can write that list, we can check it.

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a.westergaardTL3Regular14 Jun 2026#129
VPoulsen, post #11: Source for the Search filters figure, since it was asked for. It is in the discussion rather than the abstract, which is why the version circulating is stronger than the paper is. Reading the surrounding paragraph is worth the two minutes. The authors are more careful than their summarisers. Go to post

Coming back to post #125, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

That would also be the fastest way for a new member to understand what R6 actually catches, which is narrower than people assume from the text.

The claim is narrower than it sounds, and deliberately so.

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sa.okonkwoTL216 Jun 2026#130

The number people quote for Search filters is a central estimate presented without its interval, and the interval is wide enough that the estimate is nearly uninformative on its own.

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a.reyesTL4 Admin17 Jun 2026#131
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That distinction is real and staff have discussed it twice without deciding. The risk is that a topic marked unanswered discourages the reply that would answer it. If anyone has seen it work elsewhere, say so — that is the missing evidence.

I would be interested in a counterexample if anyone has one.

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a.weissTL218 Jun 2026#132
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e.kimaniTL219 Jun 2026#133

Narrowing post #131, because the general version has more than one answer.

I keep a log for Search filters specifically because my memory of it turned out to be systematically wrong in one direction. Six weeks of notes cost nothing and settled it.

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p.silvaTL220 Jun 2026#134
s.roos, post #90: Worth separating two things that post #88 runs together. Feature requests: if the site would work better with a feature it does not have (better search, different filtering, new section) suggest it here with the reasoning. Go to post

Everything in post #130 holds. The case it does not cover is the one I have.

Not a bug, but worth saying: the moderation log is paginated at twenty-five entries and there is no way to filter it by rule. Being able to read every R6 action in sequence would be genuinely instructive.

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n.lehtinenTL221 Jun 2026#135

Two things can be true about Search filters at once: the mechanism is plausible and the evidence for the size of the effect is thin. Most of the argument here is people defending the first against attacks on the second.

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i.bakkenTL222 Jun 2026#136

Before the thread moves on from Search filters — what is the sample size behind the claim? I am not being difficult; I have seen the same figure quoted from an n of four and from an n of four hundred.

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k.roosTL223 Jun 2026#137

The arithmetic in post #136 is right; the assumption feeding it is the part to check.

Performance: if pages are slow to load, timeouts occur, or the site is unresponsive, that is worth reporting with details (when, which pages, how slow).

Correct me on the arithmetic if it is wrong; I would rather know.

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l.dziedzicTL224 Jun 2026#138
steady_state, post #78: That is clearer than the version I had in my head. Thank you. Go to post

Adding the boring version of Search filters, because the interesting version keeps getting posted and the boring one is usually right.

Check the ordinary explanations, in order, and stop when one of them accounts for what you are seeing. Most of the time the second one does.

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p.dialloTL225 Jun 2026 · edited#139
j.delacroix, post #29: Narrowing post #28, because the general version has more than one answer. A methods point on Search filters rather than a substantive one: if the comparison is not like for like, the difference you are measuring is the difference in method. Go to post

Thank you for the correction. I would rather find out here than later.

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bench_entryTL3Regular27 Jun 2026#140

Where I part company with post #138, and it is a narrow parting.

The confident answers on Search filters and the well-sourced answers are not the same answers, which is the most useful thing I have learned reading this category.

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z.iyerTL228 Jun 2026 · edited#141

Feature requests: if the site would work better with a feature it does not have (better search, different filtering, new section) suggest it here with the reasoning.

Genuinely open to being wrong about this one.

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m.stephanopoulosTL3Regular29 Jun 2026#142
steady_state, post #78: That is clearer than the version I had in my head. Thank you. Go to post

This follows post #140 rather than contradicting it.

Second-hand on Search filters, so weight it accordingly — someone whose method I trust told me this and I have not verified it myself.

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