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Follow-up: Tesamorelin has an approved indication — what that changes about the evidence posts 61–69

This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1.

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r.nakamuraTL213 May 2025#61
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dexa_twice_yearlyTL3Regular14 May 2025#62

What a well-designed human trial of a secretagogue would look like: randomised, placebo-controlled, adequate sample size, IGF-1 as primary outcome, muscle and strength as secondary outcomes, adequate follow-up duration. Very few secretagogue trials meet that description.

Flagging that the sources on this are thinner than the confidence in the thread suggests.

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a.iyerTL216 May 2025#63
da.bakker, post #10: A mass result for a short peptide is more discriminating than for a long one, because a single residue difference is a larger proportion of the total. That makes identity confirmation genuinely useful here. It reads as pedantry until the day it does not. Go to post

An update on my earlier Tesamorelin post: the pattern held for another six weeks and then stopped, which I did not predict and cannot explain.

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r.mcalisterTL3Regular17 May 2025#64
h.bhattacharya, post #24: Marking my uncertainty on Tesamorelin explicitly. I am confident about the direction, much less confident about the size, and not confident at all that it generalises past the case in the first post. Go to post

Distinguishing three things in the Tesamorelin discussion that keep getting used interchangeably: the observation, the proposed mechanism, and the recommendation that gets attached to both.

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n.boatengTL219 May 2025#65

A mass result for a short peptide is more discriminating than for a long one, because a single residue difference is a larger proportion of the total. That makes identity confirmation genuinely useful here.

If this contradicts something upthread, the upthread version may well be the better one.

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crossover_reviewTL3Regular20 May 2025#66

Where I would push back on the Tesamorelin consensus is the confidence, not the direction. The direction looks right. The confidence is borrowed.

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r.szaboTL222 May 2025 · edited#67

An honest declaration on Tesamorelin: I have a prior here and it is strong enough that you should weight what I say downward. Stating it rather than hiding it.

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g.pemberton_ukTL3Regional · UK23 May 2025#68
a.frisk, post #33: Thank you — that answers what I came here to find out. Go to post

I had written a reply contradicting post #64 and deleted it. Here is what survived.

Storage: these are lyophilised short peptides and are generally reasonably stable dry and considerably less so in solution. Reconstituting only what will be used within the period the supplier's own data covers is the conservative approach.

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m.guerreroTL225 May 2025#69

Tesamorelin would be much easier to settle if anyone reported the denominator. Almost nobody reports the denominator.

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