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Oral contraceptives and delayed emptying: what the data shows posts 61–72

This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1 · go to the accepted answer.

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b.wikstromTL217 Jul 2024#61

Building on post #58 rather than restating it.

Oral medications with a narrow therapeutic index are the ones where that matters most. The interaction is about rate and timing rather than about the total absorbed, in most published cases.

The general case is well covered; this is the awkward specific one.

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buffer_sheetTL3Regular17 Jul 2024#62

That reframing is the whole thing. The facts I already had.

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i.wojcikTL218 Jul 2024#63

Oral contraceptives and delayed emptying came up in a thread eighteen months ago and was answered well. I cannot find it, which is itself the problem, so here is the reconstruction.

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bench_entryTL3Regular18 Jul 2024#64
m.dalgaard, post #20: A definition problem is doing most of the work in this oral contraceptives and delayed emptying discussion. Once the term is pinned down I suspect the disagreement mostly goes away and what is left is small. Go to post

Alcohol is not contraindicated in the labelling and it does irritate a stomach that is already emptying slowly. There is no published interaction study, and the conservative reading is the obvious one.

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s.salgadoTL218 Jul 2024#65

Food interactions: most interactions are absorption interactions. Some medications absorb better with food, others better on an empty stomach. With an incretin agonist that already slows gastric emptying, food effects interact with the drug effect as well.

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e.dalgleishTL3Regular18 Jul 2024 · edited#66

Oral medications versus time: if you take an oral medication 30 minutes before semaglutide (which slows gastric emptying), the delayed stomach emptying affects when and where the oral medication is absorbed. Separating by a larger interval (1 to 2 hours) usually resolves this.

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f.lindholmTL218 Jul 2024#67

Reporting rather than recommending, on oral contraceptives and delayed emptying. What happened is above. Whether it should have is a different question and not one I am qualified to answer.

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integrator_logTL3Regular18 Jul 2024#68
m.yilmaz, post #29: An observation about oral contraceptives and delayed emptying that I cannot explain and am posting anyway, on the principle that unexplained observations are more useful public than private. Go to post

Everything in post #64 holds. The case it does not cover is the one I have.

Anticoagulant questions come up regularly and are the clearest case for professional advice rather than discussion, because the consequence of being wrong is not gradual.

None of the above is medical advice and I am not qualified to give any.

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n.kravchenkoTL219 Jul 2024#69
b.vanhecke, post #51: I had read the opposite somewhere and cannot now find where, which tells me something. Go to post

Summarising the oral contraceptives and delayed emptying thread so far, since it is long and the answer is buried: the first reply has the method, the fourth has the correction to it, and the rest is people agreeing at length.

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slow_titratorTL2Regular19 Jul 2024#70

I had written a reply contradicting post #68 and deleted it. Here is what survived.

A pharmacist can answer most questions in this subcategory in a few minutes with access to a proper interaction database, and that access is the thing a forum does not have.

For what it is worth, the same held on the two occasions I checked.

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m.lindqvistTL219 Jul 2024#71

I had written a reply contradicting post #67 and deleted it. Here is what survived.

Worth separating oral contraceptives and delayed emptying as a question about the compound from oral contraceptives and delayed emptying as a question about the documentation. They get answered by different people and only one of them is answerable here.

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m.malinowskiTL219 Jul 2024#72

Confirming post #71 from a second method, which matters more than confirming it from a second person.

Oral contraceptive absorption has been studied specifically for some compounds in this class and the findings are compound-specific. Generalising from one to another is not supported.

Adding a source would improve this post and I do not have one to hand.

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