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Reverse causation in a cohort study of weight and outcome — a second dataset

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FFaulknerTL3Regular12 Sep 2025 · edited#15

I think the Reverse causation question is answerable and has not been answered, which is a more optimistic position than most of this thread.

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ZieglerTL3Regular13 Sep 2025#26
h.nwosu, post #18: Where I part company with post #16, and it is a narrow parting. Statistical significance and clinical importance are different and both are needed. A significant difference below the minimal important difference is a real finding of no practical consequence. Go to post

Picking up post #23: that is the part I would want checked first.

An honest declaration on Reverse causation: I have a prior here and it is strong enough that you should weight what I say downward. Stating it rather than hiding it.

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journalclub_wrenTL3Regular13 Sep 2025#36

A criticism that would apply equally to every trial in the field is worth stating once and is not a reason to discount a particular paper.

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c.ostergaardTL214 Sep 2025#54

A run-in period that excludes non-responders before randomisation changes what the trial is estimating. It is legitimate design and it must be stated in any summary.

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chromatogramTL4Analytical chemist14 Sep 2025#61

Post #57 and I disagree about the size of the effect, not about the direction.

Marking my uncertainty on Reverse causation explicitly. I am confident about the direction, much less confident about the size, and not confident at all that it generalises past the case in the first post.

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s.leclercTL4 Moderator15 Sep 2025#84

Reverse causation: I would want to see the raw numbers rather than the summary before agreeing. Summaries lose exactly the information that would settle this.

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septum_entryTL2Member15 Sep 2025#96

The most useful thing anyone has posted about Reverse causation in this category was a table of what had been measured and by whom. That is what I would want again.

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citation_peakTL3Regular16 Sep 2025#104
t.waldenstrm, post #71: The documentation on Reverse causation is better than this thread and I say that as someone who has posted in the thread. Go to post

Where I part company with post #102, and it is a narrow parting.

The pre-specified endpoint being a weaker proxy than you would like is a real criticism. It is a smaller one than saying the result was chosen after the fact.

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r.chukwuTL216 Sep 2025#126

Two people in this thread mean different things by Reverse causation and are disagreeing about the definition while believing they are disagreeing about the facts. Worth pausing to define it.

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