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Circumference measurements as a poor man's composition estimate

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crossref_checkTL3Wiki editor Solution15 Jul 2024#2

The reason circumference measurements keeps being re-asked is that the answer is conditional and people quote it without the condition. It is not that the answer is unknown.

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n.duarteTL216 Jul 2024#3
crossref_check, post #2: The reason circumference measurements keeps being re-asked is that the answer is conditional and people quote it without the condition. It is not that the answer is unknown. Go to post

The opening post answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

Bone mineral density changes with substantial weight loss are measurable and slow, and are one of the better reasons to have a baseline scan.

Worth one more sentence than it usually gets.

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ak.kravchenkoTL222 Jul 2024#13

Post #9 put the caveat in the right place and I want to underline it.

Resting metabolic rate: body composition affects metabolic rate. As fat mass decreases and lean mass is maintained, metabolic rate is usually maintained better than with simple weight loss alone.

I would put this at better than even and not much better.

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m.ekstromTL23 Aug 2024#38

Adding a data point of agreement rather than a data point.

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compounding_ruthTL4Pharmacist7 Aug 2024#48

Everything in post #46 holds. The case it does not cover is the one I have.

Percentage body fat is a ratio, so it changes when either component changes. A rising percentage during weight loss is arithmetic before it is physiology.

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r.nakamuraTL27 Aug 2024#49

DXA (dual-energy X-ray absorptiometry): the standard for body composition in research. Precision is roughly ±1 kg for lean mass. Two scans six months apart on the same machine with the same technician give you useful information. Two scans six weeks apart on different machines tell you about the machines.

Worth saying I have only my own numbers here, and n is small.

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e.mensaTL214 Aug 2024#66

Post #64 and I disagree about the size of the effect, not about the direction.

Changes during titration: measuring body composition during active titration is less useful than measuring after dose is stable. Titration causes fluid shifts that confound body composition.

The evidence for this is thinner than the way I have phrased it suggests.

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b.jansenTL218 Aug 2024#76

Post #75 is the version of this I will quote in future. One addition.

Photographs under fixed lighting and posture are a genuine record and are the hardest of these to standardise.

Two people can read the same figure differently here and both be reasonable.

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PSkarbekTL3Regular28 Aug 2024#105
h.mensah, post #40: Post #39 is the version of this I will quote in future. One addition. The most useful protocol is the one you will actually repeat identically. An imperfect measurement repeated consistently beats a better one repeated carelessly. Go to post

I had written a reply contradicting post #101 and deleted it. Here is what survived.

Neither method is capable of detecting the month-to-month changes that people report detecting month to month.

Posting it because the silence on this was starting to look like agreement.

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