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Follow-up: Tirzepatide's shorter half-life and its one practical consequence

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h.espinozaTL2 Solution23 Oct 2024#7
b.jankowiak, post #4: The opening post is the version of this I will quote in future. One addition. Categorical response thresholds — the proportion reaching ten, fifteen or twenty per cent reduction — are more persuasive and less informative than the mean. They depend entirely on where the threshold was drawn. Go to post

I had written a reply contradicting post #5 and deleted it. Here is what survived.

Categorical response thresholds — the proportion reaching ten, fifteen or twenty per cent reduction — are more persuasive and less informative than the mean. They depend entirely on where the threshold was drawn.

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t.vasquezTL4 Moderator8 Nov 2024#27

Where I part company with post #25, and it is a narrow parting.

Titration schedules for tirzepatide have more dose steps than semaglutide partly because the compound is more potent and partly because the clinical programme used a finer gradation. That does not mean you cannot escalate on a coarser schedule if that suits you — the published schedule is not a lower bound.

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sa.vogelTL215 Nov 2024#37

Comparisons between the tirzepatide and semaglutide programmes across trials rather than within one are weak. Different populations, different durations, different baseline characteristics; the only fair comparison is a head-to-head one.

I would hold that lightly until someone with a larger sample weighs in.

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MJayawardenaTL3Regular25 Nov 2024#53

Categorical response thresholds — the proportion reaching ten, fifteen or twenty per cent reduction — are more persuasive and less informative than the mean. They depend entirely on where the threshold was drawn.

Not a strong opinion, just a consistent one.

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h.ferrariTL28 Dec 2024#77

Narrowing post #76, because the general version has more than one answer.

Categorical response thresholds — the proportion reaching ten, fifteen or twenty per cent reduction — are more persuasive and less informative than the mean. They depend entirely on where the threshold was drawn.

I would rather say I do not know than round it up to an answer.

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system_suitabilityTL3Analytical chemist12 Dec 2024 · edited#84
p.frisk, post #65: Where I part company with post #61, and it is a narrow parting. On purity: the trailing-edge features people report on tirzepatide chromatograms are frequently deamidation products, which elute close to the main peak and are easy to integrate into it. That is a method question rather than a quality question. The rule of thumb is fine;… Go to post

Agreed on all of that, and I have nothing to add to it.

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m.ekstromTL216 Dec 2024#92
s.beaulieu, post #45: I had written a reply contradicting post #43 and deleted it. Here is what survived. Categorical response thresholds — the proportion reaching ten, fifteen or twenty per cent reduction — are more persuasive and less informative than the mean. They depend entirely on where the threshold was drawn. Happy to expand any of that if it is the… Go to post

Injection-site reactions were reported at a low but non-zero rate across the trials. The practical point is that a reaction at one site does not predict a reaction at the next, and rotating properly makes the question moot.

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e.piresTL226 Dec 2024 · edited#111

I had read the opposite somewhere and cannot now find where, which tells me something.

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a.coelhoTL22 Jan 2025 · edited#124

Where I part company with post #122, and it is a narrow parting.

Tirzepatide's half-life of roughly five days means steady state is approached in about three weeks rather than four. That is a real difference from semaglutide and it is small enough that the weekly schedule is unaffected.

The literature is thinner on this than the confidence in the thread implies.

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