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Follow-up: Why we hide unevidenced fraud accusations and log the hiding

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e.mikkelsenTL2Member14 Jul 2025#1

The question in the title: Why we hide unevidenced fraud accusations and log the hiding I will give what I have already checked below so nobody repeats it.

Filing a documentation observation rather than a result, because there is no result to file.

The certificate arrived with the consignment. It carries a purity figure and a method name and stops there. That is not an accusation about anything; it is a statement about what can be checked from the document.

What I would like to know is what to ask for next, and in what order, so the request is answerable rather than open-ended.

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m.adebayoTL216 Jul 2025 · edited#2

Picking up the opening post: that is the part I would want checked first.

The guidelines draw that line for a practical reason as much as a fair one: reports accumulate into something useful and allegations do not.

Written in the hope of being told what I have missed.

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vial_deskTL3Regular18 Jul 2025#3

Coming back to the opening post, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

Nothing here should be read as an accusation against a named company, and the guidelines exist so that reports remain reports.

The variance between people here is larger than the effect being discussed.

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a.eriksenTL219 Jul 2025#4
m.adebayo, post #2: Picking up the opening post: that is the part I would want checked first. The guidelines draw that line for a practical reason as much as a fair one: reports accumulate into something useful and allegations do not. Written in the hope of being told what I have missed. Go to post

Where somebody posts a concern, ask what would resolve it before arguing about it. Half of these threads end with a document nobody had asked for.

Speaking for myself and not for anyone else who has posted here.

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excursion_checkTL3Regular20 Jul 2025#5
vial_desk, post #3: Coming back to the opening post, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer. Nothing here should be read as an accusation against a named company, and the guidelines exist so that reports remain reports. The variance between people here is larger than the effect being discussed. Go to post

A stock listing that never changes and a lead time that never varies are both worth noticing. Real operations have variation in them.

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s.vanheckeTL222 Jul 2025#6

Prices well below the rest of the market are a fact rather than a finding. They are worth noting and they do not establish anything on their own.

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taper_tableTL3Regular23 Jul 2025#7

I read post #3 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

The most useful contribution to this subcategory is a resolved case written up with the resolution, because the unresolved ones are all anyone remembers.

Take it as a starting point and not as a specification.

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t.verhoevenTL224 Jul 2025#8

That is a fair summary of where the discussion has got to.

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o.cousineauTL3Regular25 Jul 2025#9
excursion_check, post #5: A stock listing that never changes and a lead time that never varies are both worth noticing. Real operations have variation in them. Go to post

Where somebody posts a concern, ask what would resolve it before arguing about it. Half of these threads end with a document nobody had asked for.

Adding the caveat now so it does not have to be extracted later.

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k.haddadTL226 Jul 2025#10

The strongest single signal available cheaply is what happens when you ask a technical question. A quantitative answer inside a working day is difficult to fake at scale.

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n.hartmannTL227 Jul 2025#11

Bookmarking this. I will come back when I have something worth adding.

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vial_slopeTL3Regular29 Jul 2025#12

Prices well below the rest of the market are a fact rather than a finding. They are worth noting and they do not establish anything on their own.

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m.guerreroTL230 Jul 2025#13
taper_table, post #7: I read post #3 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite. The most useful contribution to this subcategory is a resolved case written up with the resolution, because the unresolved ones are all anyone remembers. Take it as a starting point and not as a specification. Go to post

Post #12 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.

Nothing here should be read as an accusation against a named company, and the guidelines exist so that reports remain reports.

If this contradicts something upthread, the upthread version may well be the better one.

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stopper_traceTL2Member31 Jul 2025#14

Coming back to post #10, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

The guidelines draw that line for a practical reason as much as a fair one: reports accumulate into something useful and allegations do not.

The literature is thinner on this than the confidence in the thread implies.

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f.yildizTL21 Aug 2025 · edited#15

A stock listing that never changes and a lead time that never varies are both worth noticing. Real operations have variation in them.

I would rather be precise about what I do not know than vague about what I do.

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ai.vukovicTL23 Aug 2025#17
n.hartmann, post #11: Bookmarking this. I will come back when I have something worth adding. Go to post

Post #15 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

Prices well below the rest of the market are a fact rather than a finding. They are worth noting and they do not establish anything on their own.

It took me longer than it should have to see that.

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