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Review: a draft on reconstitution arithmetic, with objections posts 31–60

This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1.

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vial_slopeTL3Regular22 Feb 2025#31
peak_purity, post #12: I had written a reply contradicting post #9 and deleted it. Here is what survived. The most useful review comment names a sentence and says what is wrong with it. General approval and general concern are both hard to act on. Go to post

Post #28 is the version of this I will quote in future. One addition.

Where the review finds the content is right but the framing overstates it, that is the most valuable catch available at this stage.

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m.amankwahTL223 Feb 2025#32

Nothing in a maintained document is medical advice and the review should confirm the page says so where it matters rather than only in a footer.

Take the reasoning and check the arithmetic; I do not always get it right.

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stopper_traceTL2Member23 Feb 2025#33

Reading this draft on reconstitution arithmetic thread as someone who came in with a fixed view: the third and seventh replies moved me and the confident ones did not.

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n.kaufmannTL224 Feb 2025#34

Reviewing your own nomination is fine and is not sufficient. Somebody else has to read it for the process to mean anything.

That has held every time I have looked, which is not the same as always.

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methods_marginTL3Regular25 Feb 2025#35
a.jansen, post #17: A methods point on draft on reconstitution arithmetic rather than a substantive one: if the comparison is not like for like, the difference you are measuring is the difference in method. Go to post

Where a review raises something the author disagrees with, recording the disagreement in the review thread is better than resolving it privately.

If it helps: the failure mode here is usually boring rather than dramatic.

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m.guerreroTL226 Feb 2025#36
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crossover_reviewTL3Regular27 Feb 2025#37

Reading rather than contributing, but this is the most useful thread I have found on it.

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k.batistaTL227 Feb 2025#38
v.klausen, post #10: Reviewing your own nomination is fine and is not sufficient. Somebody else has to read it for the process to mean anything. I have written this out at length because the short version keeps being misread. Go to post

Answering the question post #34 raises rather than the one it answers.

Check the arithmetic in every worked example by hand. A wrong worked example is worse than no example and survives longer.

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FFaulknerTL3Regular28 Feb 2025#39

Reviewing your own nomination is fine and is not sufficient. Somebody else has to read it for the process to mean anything.

I am not the right person to answer the follow-up to this.

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j.cabreraTL21 Mar 2025#40

Draft on reconstitution arithmetic: I have looked for the primary source twice and failed twice. Either it does not exist or it is somewhere I do not know to look, and I would like to know which.

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gradient_fileTL2Member2 Mar 2025#41
methods_margin, post #35: Where a review raises something the author disagrees with, recording the disagreement in the review thread is better than resolving it privately. If it helps: the failure mode here is usually boring rather than dramatic. Go to post

I read post #39 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

Small methodological point on draft on reconstitution arithmetic: repeating a measurement is cheap and resolves most of what is being argued about here at no cost to anyone.

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s.kravchenkoTL22 Mar 2025#42
d.barros, post #26: Reviewing your own nomination is fine and is not sufficient. Somebody else has to read it for the process to mean anything. Correct me on the arithmetic if it is wrong; I would rather know. Go to post

Ask what the page would look like if it were wrong. A document with no stated failure conditions is hard to review and harder to maintain.

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endpoint_lineTL3Regular3 Mar 2025 · edited#43

Objections are genuinely wanted at this stage, because a bad promotion is much harder to undo than a bad reply.

Speaking for myself and not for anyone else who has posted here.

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z.adeyemiTL24 Mar 2025#44

Taking post #43 at face value and following it one step further.

The most useful review comment names a sentence and says what is wrong with it. General approval and general concern are both hard to act on.

The honest answer is that it depends, and here is what it depends on.

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RidgewayTL3Regular5 Mar 2025#45

Everything in post #43 holds. The case it does not cover is the one I have.

A review date is a commitment rather than a formality, and a shorter cycle for a fast-moving subject is the whole point of setting it deliberately.

Happy to be the one who is wrong here if it settles the question.

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i.grimaldiTL25 Mar 2025#46
n.vogel, post #24: A review date is a commitment rather than a formality, and a shorter cycle for a fast-moving subject is the whole point of setting it deliberately. The claim is narrower than it sounds, and deliberately so. Go to post

Narrowing post #43, because the general version has more than one answer.

Where content is lifted from a topic, attribution should be in the document rather than only in the review thread.

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erratum_fileTL3Regular6 Mar 2025#47

No disagreement from me. Posting only so the question does not look ignored.

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h.jansenTL27 Mar 2025#48

Careful with the language on draft on reconstitution arithmetic. "Not detected" and "not present" are different findings and the first is a statement about the method.

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GEldridgeTL3Regular8 Mar 2025#49
vial_slope, post #31: Post #28 is the version of this I will quote in future. One addition. Where the review finds the content is right but the framing overstates it, that is the most valuable catch available at this stage. Go to post

Where the review finds the content is right but the framing overstates it, that is the most valuable catch available at this stage.

The mechanism is plausible, which is not the same as established.

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v.kjaerTL28 Mar 2025#50

Confirming post #48 from a second method, which matters more than confirming it from a second person.

Reviewing your own nomination is fine and is not sufficient. Somebody else has to read it for the process to mean anything.

Take it as a starting point and not as a specification.

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t.duarteTL29 Mar 2025#51

Confirming post #50 from a second method, which matters more than confirming it from a second person.

The confident answers on draft on reconstitution arithmetic and the well-sourced answers are not the same answers, which is the most useful thing I have learned reading this category.

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e.ferreiraTL3Regular10 Mar 2025#52

I had written a reply contradicting post #48 and deleted it. Here is what survived.

Where I have landed on draft on reconstitution arithmetic, having got it wrong once in public: the direction is clear, the magnitude is not, and anyone quoting a precise magnitude has borrowed it from somewhere that did not measure it.

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h.falkTL211 Mar 2025#53

Multilingual versions: if a maintained page should exist in another language, suggesting it here with your willingness to help translate can make it happen.

That is my reading. Someone else read the same page differently and was reasonable.

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titration_diaryTL3Regular11 Mar 2025 · edited#54
methods_margin, post #35: Where a review raises something the author disagrees with, recording the disagreement in the review thread is better than resolving it privately. If it helps: the failure mode here is usually boring rather than dramatic. Go to post

The limitations section is the part most often thin at review and most often load-bearing afterwards.

Worth checking against a second source before it gets quoted onward.

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s.okaforTL212 Mar 2025#55

The four criteria are that the question recurs, that the content is correct and sourced or labelled as community practice, that somebody will be named as maintainer with a review date, and that no unresolved substantive objection stands.

It reads as pedantry until the day it does not.

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lc_gradientTL3Analytical chemist13 Mar 2025#56

Where I part company with post #52, and it is a narrow parting.

Fact-checking: if you see a factual claim in a maintained page that you have evidence contradicts, post the evidence here. The maintainer will review and correct if you are right.

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r.erdoganTL213 Mar 2025#57

Reviewing your own nomination is fine and is not sufficient. Somebody else has to read it for the process to mean anything.

Second-hand, so weight it accordingly.

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dr_bhattacharyaTL3Physician14 Mar 2025#58
m.amankwah, post #32: Nothing in a maintained document is medical advice and the review should confirm the page says so where it matters rather than only in a footer. Take the reasoning and check the arithmetic; I do not always get it right. Go to post

Noted, and I have changed what I was going to do on the strength of it.

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k.perrinTL215 Mar 2025#59
Ridgeway, post #45: Everything in post #43 holds. The case it does not cover is the one I have. A review date is a commitment rather than a formality, and a shorter cycle for a fast-moving subject is the whole point of setting it deliberately. Happy to be the one who is wrong here if it settles the question. Go to post

Nothing in a maintained document is medical advice and the review should confirm the page says so where it matters rather than only in a footer.

This has been discussed before and I could not find the thread, so, again.

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bench_notesTL4 Moderator15 Mar 2025#60

Review of promoted topics: when a topic is nominated for promotion to a maintained documentation page, the draft is posted here. Community review happens before promotion. Objections are welcome.

It is a small point and it changes the answer, which is an awkward combination.

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