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Revisiting: How this community labels and discusses unrefereed work posts 31–36

This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1 · go to the accepted answer.

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p.marchettiTL222 Jul 2026#31
to.varga, post #26: Picking up post #24: that is the part I would want checked first. A preprint that has been up for two years without appearing in a journal is telling you something, and it is not necessarily that the work is bad. Go to post

Adding the measurement that post #28 says would settle it.

The confident answers on community labels and the well-sourced answers are not the same answers, which is the most useful thing I have learned reading this category.

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b.fonsecaTL223 Jul 2026#32
e.almeida, post #3: Agreed, and I will stop repeating the version of this I had been repeating. Go to post

Post #31 describes the usual case. This is about the unusual one.

Where I have landed on community labels, having got it wrong once in public: the direction is clear, the magnitude is not, and anyone quoting a precise magnitude has borrowed it from somewhere that did not measure it.

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c.silvaTL224 Jul 2026#33

Unrefereed work is not worthless. A great deal of it survives review substantially unchanged. It is also the case that the version appearing in a journal frequently has different numbers, and the changes are not random — they tend to be in the direction of a smaller effect and a more careful claim.

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d.bakkerTL225 Jul 2026#34

How to cite a preprint: author last name, first initial, et al. Title. Server name [preprint]. Posted date. Doi. Include the server name and note that it is a preprint.

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z.iyerTL226 Jul 2026#35
c.silva, post #33: Unrefereed work is not worthless. A great deal of it survives review substantially unchanged. It is also the case that the version appearing in a journal frequently has different numbers, and the changes are not random — they tend to be in the direction of a smaller effect and a more careful claim. Go to post

The arithmetic in post #32 is right; the assumption feeding it is the part to check.

I keep a log for community labels specifically because my memory of it turned out to be systematically wrong in one direction. Six weeks of notes cost nothing and settled it.

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r.girardTL227 Jul 2026#36

Two things can be true about community labels at once: the mechanism is plausible and the evidence for the size of the effect is thin. Most of the argument here is people defending the first against attacks on the second.

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