Second pass at: Food noise reducing and the disorientation that can follow

Second pass at: Food noise reducing and the disorientation that can follow — setting out what I have, and where I think it stops being reliable.

Two things I would like separated before anyone answers on Food noise, because they get bundled and then argued about as one thing.

The first is descriptive: what has actually been observed, by whom, and how. The second is causal: why. I am asking about the first only.

Confirming post #8 from a second method, which matters more than confirming it from a second person.

Where the Food noise reasoning breaks down for me is the step from the group result to the individual case. That step is almost never argued for.

On post #19 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.

Food noise is well covered in the tag pages, and the older discussions are better than the recent ones because they were argued out properly. Worth twenty minutes before adding to this one.

Worth separating two things that post #23 runs together.

If someone has run Food noise properly I would rather read that than my own reconstruction of it. Posting mine only because the thread has gone quiet.

Building on post #27 rather than restating it.

I would put moderate confidence on the mainstream reading of Food noise and no more. That is not scepticism for its own sake; it is where the sourcing actually stops.

Expectations set by other people's reported trajectories are a documented source of distress, and the trajectories posted are not representative.

It is one reading of the data and not the only reasonable one.

Answering the question post #41 raises rather than the one it answers.

The social side of this — how other people respond to visible change — comes up constantly and has nothing to do with pharmacology.

Careful with the language on Food noise. "Not detected" and "not present" are different findings and the first is a statement about the method.

Worth separating Food noise as a question about the compound from Food noise as a question about the documentation. They get answered by different people and only one of them is answerable here.