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The "under review" status pill and when a moderator applies it posts 91–120

This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1.

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z.cardosoTL223 Apr 2026#91

Everything in post #88 holds. The case it does not cover is the one I have.

The most useful convention this subcategory has: state the status, state the version, state the date you checked. Three short clauses and the citation stays honest.

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unit_conversionTL3Regular24 Apr 2026#92

If you cite a preprint in a maintained document here, the convention is to label it in the sentence and to note the check date. The document review will catch the update.

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i.lehtinenTL224 Apr 2026#93
batchlog, post #43: Unrefereed work is not worthless and a great deal of it survives review substantially unchanged. That is the accurate framing and it is not a licence to treat it as final. Adding this to the thread rather than to the wiki, because I am not confident enough for the wiki. Go to post

Building anything durable on a preprint means committing to rebuild it. That is a reasonable trade for a fast-moving question and it should be an explicit one.

If anyone has run this properly I would rather read that than my own guess.

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q.zhao_qaTL3Quality assurance25 Apr 2026#94

Building on post #93 rather than restating it.

Where a preprint contradicts a published trial, the prior should favour the trial. Where it extends one, the preprint can be genuinely useful.

Not a conclusion. A place to stand while looking for one.

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z.szaboTL225 Apr 2026#95

Answering the question post #93 raises rather than the one it answers.

Sample size and pre-registration are checkable in a preprint exactly as in a paper, and they carry the same weight.

I have written this out at length because the short version keeps being misread.

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nl_translatorTL2Translator · NL26 Apr 2026#96

The arithmetic in post #93 is right; the assumption feeding it is the part to check.

A preprint with the data and code attached is frequently more checkable than a published paper without them. Reviewed and reproducible are different properties.

Written quickly, so the reasoning may be tighter than the wording.

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b.dumitruTL226 Apr 2026#97
m.duarte, post #3: The most useful convention this subcategory has: state the status, state the version, state the date you checked. Three short clauses and the citation stays honest. I would be interested in a counterexample if anyone has one. Go to post

Reading back through, this was answered upthread and I missed it. My fault.

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electrolyte_notesTL2Regular27 Apr 2026 · edited#98
p.iyer_pharmd, post #79: Reading rather than contributing, but this is the most useful thread I have found on it. Go to post

Author track record is a weak signal and it is a signal. A group that has published carefully for years is a different prior from an unknown one.

If that reads as pedantic, it is, and it has saved me twice.

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a.cabreraTL227 Apr 2026#99

Building anything durable on a preprint means committing to rebuild it. That is a reasonable trade for a fast-moving question and it should be an explicit one.

One of those cases where knowing the mechanism does not help the decision.

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citation_peakTL3Regular28 Apr 2026#100

Post #98 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.

Reading a preprint properly means doing some of the reviewer's job: methods first, then whether the analysis matches the plan, then the conclusion.

I would treat that as a working assumption and revisit it.

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a.novakTL228 Apr 2026#101

The honest position on most preprints in this field is that they are interesting and provisional, and that saying both is not fence-sitting.

Nothing above should be read as advice about what anyone else should do.

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a.adebayoTL229 Apr 2026#102
r.aldana_pharmd, post #86: I had written a reply contradicting post #83 and deleted it. Here is what survived. Author track record is a weak signal and it is a signal. A group that has published carefully for years is a different prior from an unknown one. Go to post

How to cite a preprint: author last name, first initial, et al. Title. Server name [preprint]. Posted date. Doi. Include the server name and note that it is a preprint.

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e.vargaTL229 Apr 2026#103
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mira.patelTL4 Admin30 Apr 2026#104

Useful. I have added it to my own notes with the date on it.

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r.zielinskiTL230 Apr 2026#105

Building anything durable on a preprint means committing to rebuild it. That is a reasonable trade for a fast-moving question and it should be an explicit one.

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r.aldana_pharmdTL4Pharmacist1 May 2026#106

Reading a preprint properly means doing some of the reviewer's job: methods first, then whether the analysis matches the plan, then the conclusion.

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d.vukovicTL21 May 2026#107
i.amankwah, post #55: Post #53 put the caveat in the right place and I want to underline it. Building anything durable on a preprint means committing to rebuild it. That is a reasonable trade for a fast-moving question and it should be an explicit one. Go to post

Answering the question post #105 raises rather than the one it answers.

Author track record is a weak signal and it is a signal. A group that has published carefully for years is a different prior from an unknown one.

Not the answer, but possibly the question that gets there.

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lc_gradientTL3Analytical chemist2 May 2026#108

Say it is a preprint in the first line rather than the last. Everything downstream depends on that status and readers arriving from search will not scroll for it.

Adding a source would improve this post and I do not have one to hand.

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t.duarteTL22 May 2026#109

Useful. I had the fact and not the reason, which turns out to be the important half.

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dr_bhattacharyaTL3Physician2 May 2026#110

Confirming post #108 from a second method, which matters more than confirming it from a second person.

A preprint with the data and code attached is frequently more checkable than a published paper without them. Reviewed and reproducible are different properties.

That has been true for the cases I have seen and I have not seen many.

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IsaksenTL3Regular3 May 2026#111

This follows post #108 rather than contradicting it.

The honest position on most preprints in this field is that they are interesting and provisional, and that saying both is not fence-sitting.

The short version is the first sentence; the rest is why.

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r.coelhoTL23 May 2026#112

Worth separating two things that post #110 runs together.

Sample size and pre-registration are checkable in a preprint exactly as in a paper, and they carry the same weight.

The uncertainty is in the assumption, not in the calculation.

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KStephanopoulosTL3Regular4 May 2026#113
k.radich, post #37: On post #34 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification. Reading a preprint properly means doing some of the reviewer's job: methods first, then whether the analysis matches the plan, then the conclusion. Adding it because I spent an afternoon working it out and nobody should have to twice. Go to post

How to cite a preprint: author last name, first initial, et al. Title. Server name [preprint]. Posted date. Doi. Include the server name and note that it is a preprint.

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s.vogelTL24 May 2026#114
c.silva, post #63: The arithmetic in post #62 is right; the assumption feeding it is the part to check. Peer review catches some things reliably — missing methods, unsupported conclusions, statistical mistakes of the obvious kind — and misses others routinely. Knowing which is which makes preprint reading easier. Go to post

Fine by me. I had wanted a stronger conclusion and there is not one available.

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footnote_entryTL3Regular5 May 2026 · edited#115

Taking post #112 at face value and following it one step further.

Where a preprint contradicts a published trial, the prior should favour the trial. Where it extends one, the preprint can be genuinely useful.

That is what the documentation says. What happens in practice is usually close.

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h.castellanosTL25 May 2026#116

Preprints for speed: some important preliminary findings are posted as preprints to disseminate quickly. That speed is useful but comes at the cost of not yet having survived peer review. The trade-off is real.

I would want to see it done twice before believing it once.

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n.rowntreeTL3Regular6 May 2026#117
v.kirchner, post #26: Building anything durable on a preprint means committing to rebuild it. That is a reasonable trade for a fast-moving question and it should be an explicit one. I checked the source rather than the summary, and they differ. Go to post

The most useful convention this subcategory has: state the status, state the version, state the date you checked. Three short clauses and the citation stays honest.

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m.oyelaranTL26 May 2026#118

Everything in post #115 holds. The case it does not cover is the one I have.

Sample size and pre-registration are checkable in a preprint exactly as in a paper, and they carry the same weight.

Posted with less confidence than the sentence structure implies.

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BirkelandTL3Regular7 May 2026#119

Screening on a preprint server is minimal and is not review. It filters obvious problems and nothing more, which is what it is designed to do.

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p.fontaineTL27 May 2026#120
d.vukovic, post #107: Answering the question post #105 raises rather than the one it answers. Author track record is a weak signal and it is a signal. A group that has published carefully for years is a different prior from an unknown one. Not the answer, but possibly the question that gets there. Go to post

If you cite a preprint in a maintained document here, the convention is to label it in the sentence and to note the check date. The document review will catch the update.

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