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Why "any advice?" is the least effective ending for a post

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m.guerreroTL231 Oct 2024#1

The question in the title: Why "any advice?" is the least effective ending for a post I will give what I have already checked below so nobody repeats it.

Counting it rather than describing it, because the count is the part that can be argued with.

29 instances over 22 weeks, recorded the same way each time, 5 of them different enough from the rest that I have set them aside and said so.

That is the whole dataset. The question in the title is what it does and does not support.

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r.vukovicTL231 Oct 2024#2

Five questions in one post gets you one answer: the easiest one, usually not the one you needed most. Post them separately or pick the one that depends on the others least and ask that one first.

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tracked_parcelTL2Regular1 Nov 2024#3
m.guerrero, post #1: The question in the title: Why "any advice?" is the least effective ending for a post I will give what I have already checked below so nobody repeats it. Counting it rather than describing it, because the count is the part that can be argued with. 29 instances over 22 weeks, recorded the same way each time, 5 of them different enough… Go to post

If the answer you got does not fit your case, say which part does not fit rather than restating the question. Otherwise the next reply is the same as the last one.

Scoping that to what I have actually seen rather than what I have read.

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e.steinerTL22 Nov 2024#4

Taking post #3 at face value and following it one step further.

Arithmetic questions: write out the steps. "I have a 10 mg vial, I added 2 mL, I want a 0.25 mg dose, and I get this number for the syringe mark" is answerable. "How many units" is not.

Happy to expand any of that if it is the useful part.

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eire_readerTL2Regional · IE2 Nov 2024#5

I read post #3 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

If you are asking about a document, quote the exact wording of the line you are asking about. Paraphrasing a specification is how a discussion ends up about a document nobody has read.

It is worth checking rather than assuming, which costs nothing.

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f.haddadTL23 Nov 2024#6

Lab result questions: state the result, the reference interval, and what else is on the same panel. A single flag on a single draw is usually uninformative without context.

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p.novotnyTL2Regular3 Nov 2024#7
m.guerrero, post #1: The question in the title: Why "any advice?" is the least effective ending for a post I will give what I have already checked below so nobody repeats it. Counting it rather than describing it, because the count is the part that can be argued with. 29 instances over 22 weeks, recorded the same way each time, 5 of them different enough… Go to post

Saving this. It is the version I will quote when the question comes round again.

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m.balogunTL24 Nov 2024#8

Disagreeing with an answer you got: cite what you disagree with, say what contradicts it, and ask which one holds. Do not open with "I think you are wrong". Lead with the evidence.

It reads as pedantry until the day it does not.

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p.iyer_pharmdTL3Pharmacist4 Nov 2024#9
tracked_parcel, post #3: If the answer you got does not fit your case, say which part does not fit rather than restating the question. Otherwise the next reply is the same as the last one. Scoping that to what I have actually seen rather than what I have read. Go to post

Number your questions if there is more than one. It sounds fussy. It means the answer can be numbered back, and you find out which one nobody addressed.

It is worth stating the boring hypothesis before the interesting one.

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n.okwuosaTL25 Nov 2024#10
r.vukovic, post #2: Five questions in one post gets you one answer: the easiest one, usually not the one you needed most. Post them separately or pick the one that depends on the others least and ask that one first. Go to post

Confirming post #8 from a second method, which matters more than confirming it from a second person.

Say what you have already ruled out. "It is not the diluent because I tried a second vial from a different box" saves three replies suggesting the diluent.

Somebody will have a better source than mine, and I hope they post it.

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logbook_erinTL3Regular5 Nov 2024#11
p.iyer_pharmd, post #9: Number your questions if there is more than one. It sounds fussy. It means the answer can be numbered back, and you find out which one nobody addressed. It is worth stating the boring hypothesis before the interesting one. Go to post

"Has anyone had this happen" gets you anecdotes. "What would cause this, and what would distinguish the causes" gets you an explanation. The second question is almost always the one you wanted.

Caveat: everything above assumes the paperwork is what it says it is.

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s.girardTL26 Nov 2024#12

The specific question in the title is more useful than you might think. A title like "a question I have" forces the person answering to guess what you want to know. A title with the actual question gets you an answer in two hours instead of two days.

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coldchain_liuTL3Regular6 Nov 2024 · edited#13

Agreed on all of that, and I have nothing to add to it.

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mira.patelTL4 Admin6 Nov 2024#14
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I read post #10 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

Staff note on titles, since it comes up. We retitle topics fairly often, always leaving the original in the first post and always logging it. It is not a criticism of the wording — it is that a title is how somebody finds this in eighteen months.

The strength of my opinion here exceeds the strength of my evidence.

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a.finnegan_rdTL2Dietitian7 Nov 2024#15
mira.patel, post #14: I read post #10 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite. Staff note on titles, since it comes up. We retitle topics fairly often, always leaving the original in the first post and always logging it. It is not a criticism of the wording — it is that a title is how somebody finds this in eighteen months. The strength of… Go to post

If your question has a deadline — a parcel in transit, a delivery you have to accept or refuse — say so. People answer differently when there is a clock on it.

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m.nascimentoTL27 Nov 2024#16
e.steiner, post #4: Taking post #3 at face value and following it one step further. Arithmetic questions: write out the steps. "I have a 10 mg vial, I added 2 mL, I want a 0.25 mg dose, and I get this number for the syringe mark" is answerable. "How many units" is not. Happy to expand any of that if it is the useful part. Go to post

Say what you want out of the answer. "I want to know whether to accept this delivery" and "I want to understand the chemistry" get very different and equally valid replies.

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v.szaboTL3Analytical chemist8 Nov 2024#17

Narrowing post #16, because the general version has more than one answer.

A photograph of a vial is rarely useful and a photograph of a document usually is. Redact the identifiers before you post either.

Genuinely open to being wrong about this one.

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v.kirchnerTL28 Nov 2024#18

Everything in post #14 holds. The case it does not cover is the one I have.

Nobody minds being asked to explain a term. The people who use them most are the quickest to define them, and a question that stops to ask is usually a question that gets a better answer.

The part I am sure of is shorter than the part I have written.

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s.karlsen_rphTL3Pharmacist8 Nov 2024#19

Adding the measurement that post #16 says would settle it.

Units. Everything needs units. This is why we ask every single time. I have seen the same arithmetic done three different ways depending on whether the person was thinking mg/mL or mg/dose or something else entirely. Stating the units makes that impossible.

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h.vargaTL29 Nov 2024#20
p.novotny, post #7: Saving this. It is the version I will quote when the question comes round again. Go to post

Post #18 describes the usual case. This is about the unusual one.

Asking a follow-up: new topic or reply in the old one? If the answer depends on the previous post, reply. If it is a question that makes sense without the previous post, new topic. The second gets faster answers.

The step people skip is the one I have spelled out.

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an.adeyemiTL29 Nov 2024#21

What you have already read matters. Saying "I read the maintained page on this and I still have a gap" tells people they do not need to point you at the same resource you have already found. That is a genuine time saver.

Same conclusion as the reply above, reached differently, which is mildly reassuring.

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e.silvaTL29 Nov 2024#22
n.okwuosa, post #10: Confirming post #8 from a second method, which matters more than confirming it from a second person. Say what you have already ruled out. "It is not the diluent because I tried a second vial from a different box" saves three replies suggesting the diluent. Somebody will have a better source than mine, and I hope they post it. Go to post

Post #19 is the version of this I will quote in future. One addition.

Quantities without units are the single commonest reason a question sits unanswered. "Two and a half" is not a dose, a volume or a concentration until you say which.

That is what I would do. It may not be what is correct.

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l.ferreiraTL210 Nov 2024#23
eire_reader, post #5: I read post #3 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite. If you are asking about a document, quote the exact wording of the line you are asking about. Paraphrasing a specification is how a discussion ends up about a document nobody has read. It is worth checking rather than assuming, which costs nothing. Go to post

Context that matters: compound, how long in, current dose, relevant history. Context that does not matter: how you feel, your hopes for the outcome, your medical history beyond what affects this specific question. The first set gets you answered. The second set makes the reply longer without making it better.

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h.koodziejTL2Member10 Nov 2024#24

Reading rather than contributing, but this is the most useful thread I have found on it.

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j.castellanosTL211 Nov 2024#25

I had written a reply contradicting post #23 and deleted it. Here is what survived.

A question about somebody else's post should be a reply to that post, not a new topic. A question the post happened to raise should be a new topic linking back to it. The difference is whether the answer is useful without the original.

I have changed my mind on this once already, so take it as current rather than settled.

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j.sorensenTL211 Nov 2024#26

Confirming post #23 from a second method, which matters more than confirming it from a second person.

Chromatography questions need the method before anything else: column, gradient, wavelength, injection volume. A purity figure with no method attached cannot be discussed, only repeated.

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c.rasmussenTL211 Nov 2024#27
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appendix_driftTL0New user12 Nov 2024#28

Speaking as somebody who asked badly last month and got a polite request for four missing details: writing the question properly the first time takes ten minutes and saves two days. Learn from me.

If it helps: the failure mode here is usually boring rather than dramatic.

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p.friskTL212 Nov 2024#29

Reading back through, this was answered upthread and I missed it. My fault.

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v.milanoviTL3Regular12 Nov 2024#30

Avoid "any advice?" at the end. It is so generic that people do not know which part of the post it refers to. Pick the specific part and ask that specific question instead.

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