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Deletion sequences: expected mass shifts by residue — the long version

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d.bakkerTL21 Jul 2026#1

On the subject in the title: Deletion sequences: expected mass shifts by residue — the long version Working notes rather than a conclusion.

Deletion sequences keeps being re-asked here and I think that is because the answer is conditional and the conditions never travel with it.

Attempting to write the conditional version down properly. Corrections welcome and expected — I would like this to end up as a maintained page rather than a fifth thread.

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n.abernathyTL3Analytical chemist3 Jul 2026#2

Saving this. It is the version I will quote when the question comes round again.

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s.cabreraTL25 Jul 2026#3
d.bakker, post #1: On the subject in the title: Deletion sequences: expected mass shifts by residue — the long version Working notes rather than a conclusion. Deletion sequences keeps being re-asked here and I think that is because the answer is conditional and the conditions never travel with it. Attempting to write the conditional version down properly.… Go to post

Off-target structures: if the sequence synthesis goes wrong, a completely different amino acid can be incorporated. The resulting off-target peptide is a structural isomer with the same mass but a different sequence. No chromatographic purity method detects this without a reference standard.

A single observation, in a thread that deserves better than single observations.

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PharmNotes_WhitfieldTL4Pharmacist6 Jul 2026#4

The opening post put the caveat in the right place and I want to underline it.

The confident answers on Deletion sequences and the well-sourced answers are not the same answers, which is the most useful thing I have learned reading this category.

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e.halonenTL27 Jul 2026#5

Post #3 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

Acetate content: counter-ion content. Trifluoroacetate or acetate from the salt form of the peptide. Affects mass calculations and should be stated on a complete certificate.

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journalclub_wrenTL3Regular9 Jul 2026#6
d.bakker, post #1: On the subject in the title: Deletion sequences: expected mass shifts by residue — the long version Working notes rather than a conclusion. Deletion sequences keeps being re-asked here and I think that is because the answer is conditional and the conditions never travel with it. Attempting to write the conditional version down properly.… Go to post

I read post #4 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

Dimer and higher-order multimers: two or more peptide molecules bonded together. They appear at double the mass and higher. They may or may not separate from the monomer on HPLC depending on the method.

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h.agyemanTL210 Jul 2026#7

For anyone finding this later: the short answer on Deletion sequences is that it depends on one thing, and the rest of the thread is people identifying which thing.

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dietitian_hollisTL3Dietitian11 Jul 2026#8

Scavengers and cleavage-cocktail residues can persist and appear as small early-eluting peaks. They are process-related rather than sequence-related, which is a useful distinction when reading a profile.

Worth reading the earlier posts in this thread before acting on mine.

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s.vukovicTL212 Jul 2026#9

That last point is the ceiling on what any purity figure can claim. A method that cannot see a species cannot exclude it, and no certificate says which species its method cannot see.

I checked the source rather than the summary, and they differ.

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DSakamotoTL3Regular13 Jul 2026#10

On Deletion sequences: the maintained page in the documentation commons covers the general case with citations and a review date, which is more reliable than any reply here including this one.

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a.ilungaTL214 Jul 2026#11

The reason Deletion sequences is hard to answer is that the obvious measurement and the relevant quantity are not the same thing, and substituting one for the other is silent.

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coldchain_liuTL3Regular15 Jul 2026#12

That is the distinction I keep failing to hold on to. Written down now.

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logbook_erinTL3Regular17 Jul 2026 · edited#14
n.abernathy, post #2: Saving this. It is the version I will quote when the question comes round again. Go to post

Deletion sequences arise from incomplete coupling and are lower by one residue mass. Where they elute depends on the hydrophobicity of the residue that is missing, so they can appear on either side of the main peak.

Someone should write this up properly, and it should probably not be me.

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k.pereiraTL218 Jul 2026#15

Where I part company with post #11, and it is a narrow parting.

The claim about Deletion sequences upthread is stronger than its source supports. I have read the source. The source says "associated with" and the post says "causes".

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maintenance_modeTL3Regular19 Jul 2026#16

Post #15 is the version of this I will quote in future. One addition.

Deletion sequences (incomplete coupling during synthesis): lower in mass by one residue. Chromatographically they usually elute earlier or later depending on the residue's hydrophobicity. They are the most common impurity in solid-phase synthesis.

One more caveat and then I will stop qualifying: the sample selected itself.

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p.krastevTL220 Jul 2026#17

Aggregates may be a multiple of the monomer mass and may not elute at all under a standard method. What does not come off the column does not appear in the area percentage.

I keep a log of this specifically because memory is unreliable about it.

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r.venkatesanTL3Wiki editor21 Jul 2026#18
PharmNotes_Whitfield, post #4: The opening post put the caveat in the right place and I want to underline it. The confident answers on Deletion sequences and the well-sourced answers are not the same answers, which is the most useful thing I have learned reading this category. Go to post

The documentation on Deletion sequences is better than this thread and I say that as someone who has posted in the thread.

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c.tullochTL221 Jul 2026#19
n.abernathy, post #2: Saving this. It is the version I will quote when the question comes round again. Go to post

Clear enough that I do not think I have a follow-up, which is unusual.

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KLindqvistTL4 Moderator22 Jul 2026#20

Peptide impurities that differ by a single residue are the hardest to resolve and the most likely to be biologically relevant, which is an unfortunate combination.

One case, stated as one case.

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g.tammTL223 Jul 2026 · edited#21
c.tulloch, post #19: Clear enough that I do not think I have a follow-up, which is unusual. Go to post

Oxidation at methionine or tryptophan adds sixteen per oxygen and typically elutes earlier. In aged material it is the modification that grows.

I would be glad to be shown a cleaner way of putting this.

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NorringtonTL3Regular24 Jul 2026#22

Trifluoroacetate is a counter-ion rather than an impurity, and it appears in the mass balance rather than in the chromatogram. Conflating the two accounts for several confused threads here.

The right answer here may simply be that it has not been measured.

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e.kuipersTL225 Jul 2026#23

Narrowing post #20, because the general version has more than one answer.

Relative response factors mean impurities are not detected in proportion to how much of them is present. A one per cent peak is not one per cent by mass unless the response factors happen to match.

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lyophil_marginTL3Regular26 Jul 2026#24

No disagreement from me. Posting only so the question does not look ignored.

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m.yildizTL227 Jul 2026#25
KLindqvist, post #20: Peptide impurities that differ by a single residue are the hardest to resolve and the most likely to be biologically relevant, which is an unfortunate combination. One case, stated as one case. Go to post

Incomplete deprotection: mass higher by the protecting group mass. Usually markedly later eluting. A synthesis artifact from incomplete removal of protecting groups.

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taper_fileTL3Regular27 Jul 2026#26
n.abernathy, post #2: Saving this. It is the version I will quote when the question comes round again. Go to post

Aggregates: multiples of the monomer mass. May not elute at all under a standard reversed-phase method. A species that does not come off the column does not appear in the area percentage.

That is one dataset and I would not build a rule on it.

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