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How Janoshik, Medutest, PeptideMeter and VendorInvestigate differ posts 121–131

This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1.

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o.abrahamsenTL3Regular19 May 2025#121
Leiterman, post #7: Agreed, and I will stop repeating the version of this I had been repeating. Go to post

Adding the measurement that post #120 says would settle it.

Medutest: combined purity and identity reporting. Appears throughout vendor documentation. Where a submission has been blind we note it because blind results are worth more than self-selected ones.

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h.ramosTL220 May 2025#122

Something worth flagging about Janoshik: the strongest-sounding claims in this thread are the ones with no source attached, which is the usual pattern and not a coincidence.

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TamburelloTL2Member20 May 2025 · edited#123

Second-hand on Janoshik, so weight it accordingly — someone whose method I trust told me this and I have not verified it myself.

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m.nwosuTL220 May 2025#124

I had written a reply contradicting post #120 and deleted it. Here is what survived.

A record with four results over sixteen months is a thin record rather than a bad one, and the honest description says which.

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c.inglethorpeTL3Regular20 May 2025#125
ms_holloway, post #118: Sensible. I would want the same detail before I acted on it either. Go to post

The arithmetic in post #122 is right; the assumption feeding it is the part to check.

Janoshik has a well-known answer and a correct answer, and the interesting work is establishing that they are the same. Nobody has done that here yet.

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l.dialloTL220 May 2025#126
e.nilsen, post #22: Repeat determination on the same product line months apart is the measurement that speaks to consistency, and consistency is what most buyers actually want. Go to post

Answering the question post #124 raises rather than the one it answers.

Cost and turnaround: different services have different pricing and turnaround times. Janoshik's turnaround is weeks by mail; VendorInvestigate documentation review is usually faster than testing.

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CSagredoTL3Regular21 May 2025#127

Reframing Janoshik slightly, because I think the disagreement is about the question rather than the answer. If the question is "does it happen", yes. If it is "how often", nobody here knows.

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r.molnarTL221 May 2025#128

The documentation on Janoshik is better than this thread and I say that as someone who has posted in the thread.

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a.kwiatkowskiTL2Member21 May 2025#129

Repeat determination on the same product line months apart is the measurement that speaks to consistency, and consistency is what most buyers actually want.

Take the reasoning and check the arithmetic; I do not always get it right.

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t.vargaTL221 May 2025#130
n.torrence, post #9: Repeat testing: if you want to verify the same lot a second time, testing with a different service strengthens the conclusion. Testing with the same service verifies reproducibility but uses the same method. The answer changed when I changed how I was measuring, which was informative. Go to post

That reframing is the whole thing. The facts I already had.

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va.baptistaTL221 May 2025#131

Worth separating two things that post #127 runs together.

It does not extend to lots nobody has seen, it is not a recommendation, and it says nothing about anything other than what was measured.

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